“Nobody likes to do this in an election year,” Waddoups said. “So now is the time.”
DaKnife wrote:While I don't like this law,...
What do lawmakers have to hide?
...House Bill 477 was not introduced until March 1, extremely late in the legislative session, which ends March 10. It passed swiftly in the Utah House and appears to be headed toward fast approval in the Senate. The Government Records Access and Management Act - GRAMA - took two years to draft and has served as a model for other states. But it is in the process of being unraveled in less than one week.
How do you know this is a bad bill? You need look only at the weak excuses being used to justify such reckless action.
Legislators who favor HB-477 say they are being burdened by too many GRAMA requests and that there are too many requests seeking volumes upon volumes of information. That's interesting given that the Legislature's own general counsel said as of Friday that he had received exactly eight GRAMA requests during this year's session, which started in January. That's right, eight requests in comparison to the more than 800 bills and resolutions proposed during this session - one GRAMA request for every 100 pieces of legislation.
Does that sound like too much time and effort for the people of Utah?
Supporters of the bill also said many of the requests deal with members of the media trying to dig up embarrassing details on legislators. However, Dougall confirmed after a House committee hearing that some of the GRAMA requests were associated with an issue involving feral cats, the state budget and illegal immigration. One came from a newspaper requesting a seven-page social calendar from the House and Senate. So, exactly how many GRAMA requests could have been associated with embarrassing details after taking these others into account. Remember, as of Friday there was a total of only eight filed during this session....
bagpiper wrote:Just wondering what this bill has to do with RKBA?
Utah carry permits are already private records and not affected by this bill.
How does this bill affect RKBA?
This bill has nothing to do with RKBA, however, it has everything to do with the transparency of the Utah state government. GRAMA allows the taxpayers to examine what's going on in our government, and give us the information to voice opinions and demand changes. The arrogant way the state legislature crammed this bill through should be a warning- If we allow this behavior to continue, next time it could be RKBA related. And with the changes they tried to make with HB 477, we wouldn't even be able to find out.
At this point props to Herbert- HB 477 was recalled to avoid a veto.
divegeek wrote: With respect to firearms, it's often very useful to be able to request information about bad police encounters over firearms possession and carry.
I haven't had time to read the bill, but HB477 significantly restricts the types of materials citizens can request, and increases both the costs and the time allowed for information to be provided.
bagpiper wrote:Does anyone here really want those kind of private strategy meetings to be open to the public? Do you want us to have to expose our strategy, what we can or can't live with this year or next, or how we plan to push through a needed change, to those who are hostile to or even ignorant of RKBA?
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