sarahbn wrote:Deviant Ollam shows you how to do it. http://deviating.net/firearms/packing/
gssp wrote:The way it should be and IMO, is actually legal.
You approach the check-in counter. You announce you wish to declare your handgun for inspection/travel purposes. The agent asks to see it to verify it's unloaded and locked in a case. You un-holster your handgun and either empty the cylinder or drop the mag into your hand. For this purpose, I would actually have an empty chamber where as I normally have a loaded chamber. You show the agent the empty handgun, place it in the case and lock the case in front of the agent, who places the "unloaded firearm" tag with the firearm. It is then placed in your checked baggage along with the ammo, which you place in either a factory box or a MTM Case Gard for ammo. The agent then takes the item/s to the TSA agent who does their thing too.
Am I wrong?
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gssp wrote:the ammo, which you place in either a factory box or a MTM Case Gard for ammo.
bagpiper wrote:Sometimes they want the orange card inside the hard case that is inside the luggage (which is where I like to put it so as to minimize the risk that the tag--which is my proof I properly declared the gun--gets separated from the gun itself), other times they want it inside the luggage, but outside the gun case.
bagpiper wrote:there is an area for the TSA to do a manual inspection and chemical check of your bags. They want the gun case unlocked for this,
bagpiper wrote:They will let you (re) lock anything you needed to unlock and you can even use a real lock on the outside of your suitcase.
bagpiper wrote:I've been through airports where your bag goes back to the TSA blind and the counter agent asks you to wait a few minutes before proceeding through security to see if TSA needs to inspect any further.
bagpiper wrote:Now, these are all in gun friendly States where my Utah permit is recognized. I just don't see the point of taking a gun on travel to places where I can't carry it.
Note that some airlines (e.g. Delta) have stricter requirements. Delta wants the ammo in a factory box or similar. However, only once has any Delta agent ever asked to see my ammo, and that was an especially obnoxious and thorough one in Detroit -- who had just refused to let the guy ahead of me check his gun because his gun case was insufficiently secure, she thought. In that situation, I happened to have a box of factory ammo with me (in addition to my loaded mags in the mag pouch) so I just pulled that out of my suitcase and showed her -- leaving the mag pouches in the suitcase. She seemed disappointed but nodded. Normally I arrive at the gate with an unloaded gun and nobody ever asks about ammo.
divegeek wrote:Yeah, that's weird. Sometimes inside, sometimes outside... once I even had an agent run and get some packing tape and tape the thing to my gun case. Which I thought was better than just letting it float around inside my suitcase, but it was time-consuming.
divegeek wrote:They've never asked me to open my gun case. I lock it before putting it in the suitcase, then haul the suitcase down to the TSA. I have the keys in my pocket, so if I ever needed to I could unlock it, but I've never been asked to do that, and no one has ever implied it should be unlocked.
divegeek wrote:Don't use a non-TSA lock on the outside unless you want to chance having it cut off. Because there is no exterior indication that your suitcase contains a gun, it can still get re-searched, and they'll cut the lock off if they decide to do that. Supposedly the orange tag shows up on X-ray to let them know not to bother, but... I've had mine show up at the other end with a "TSA inspected this" card inside, which was not placed there during the initial search.
divegeek wrote:If that means just leaving my bag overnight with the airline and doing without my toothbrush, fine. That sort of circumstance should be very rare, though; I've flown over 900,000 miles, and I've only had to unexpectedly overnight a handful of times, and only once in an anti-gun area.
B52U wrote:I would like to know more from the experienced flyers about what kind of cases you have used and what kind of suit cases you put your handgun case in. Perhaps what kind of locks have worked well, and any tips on how to pack to make the process easier. Thanks in advance.
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