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#1 ·
I just spent the last week in California on a retreat with the company my wife works for.
Instead of driving 8-9 hours both ways my wife got some buddy passes through an aunt of hers who works for JetBlue.
I have flown with my checked gun with other airlines without any trouble or even a second glance from the ticket counter or TSA.

We had a early 6 AM flight and arrived around 5 AM. As they were looking up my information I told them that I would like to declare my firearm.
They said no problem and then after our info came up they noted that since I was on a buddy pass/standby that I was not allowed to check in any firearms! :huh:
The ticket agent stated that they had done it before and got in trouble for some reason. Since my wife and I had already been bumped from the previous days flight to this early one and I didn't want to miss another one I ran my pistol safe back to my car with the help of a shuttle driver who took me directly to my car and back since at that early hour nobody else was on the shuttle.

I didn't realize that my 2nd amendment right was no longer valid since I had a discounted ticket. I am in the process of searching for some kind of JetBlue policy that regulates what you can do with a buddy pass. The only thing I could think of is that a Buddy Pass is given out from an employee and it could be argued that I am representing the employee or company by using one, and therefore come under the wing of some kind of company firearm policy.

Anybody else experience anything of this nature before? Possibly with another airline?
 
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#2 ·
They makes perfect since with a buddy pass. The chances of you being separated from your checked luggage is very high. They simply do not wish for baggage with a firearm being left unattended or stored for an unknown length of time.

After all, not all airports have the same 2a friendly status as Salt Lake and it may very well be a violation of the laws at your destination. Which is possible given you were going to California, the most anti 2a around!

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#3 ·
slykly1 said:
. . . since I was on a buddy pass/standby that I was not allowed to check in any firearms!
I would agree with snaggle. I think it's just because it's standby. If there's no room on the flight you intend to board, you're booted first, but your baggage will likely continue on to your intended destination. I've flown with JetBlue a couple times on their cheapest economy flights and had no problem checking a firearm.
 
#4 ·
JetBlue does not check your bags or issue you a boarding pass unless there is spot for you on the plane. So being separated from my bags would not be an issue. Even if I was separated from my bags TSA and the airline can't go on a "wish" and deny me a right to carry.

With my firearm in a pistol case and it being stored in the house we rented (temporary residence) as well as it only having a 10 round clip I was not violating any laws.

The issue I have is that because I had a Buddy pass ticket that I was denied the rights that other passengers enjoy even though we both would go through the same security measures to fly with a firearm. :x
 
#5 ·
The only thing I could think of is that a Buddy Pass is given out from an employee and it could be argued that I am representing the employee or company by using one, and therefore come under the wing of some kind of company firearm policy.This is exactly why. Therefore it becomes a liability on jetblue as a representitive of them. Stupid I know. You have to weight your options , free airfare =no protection ,pay the ticket price= have protection :dunno:
 
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Snaggle said:
After all, not all airports have the same 2a friendly status as Salt Lake and it may very well be a violation of the laws at your destination. Which is possible given you were going to California, the most anti 2a around!
I take it, you haven't live in, or dealt with the laws of, New York, New Jersey, or Washington DC very much.
California is a firearms paradise, in comparison.
 
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FrankenHollow said:
I take it, you haven't live in, or dealt with the laws of, New York, New Jersey, or Washington DC very much.
California is a firearms paradise, in comparison.
Yeah, in San Diego two police officers escorted me from the ticket counter to the TSA baggage check, instead of escorting me to the city jail. :mrgreen:
 
#10 ·
My wife works for jet blue. I know all about buddy passes. She looked up, and asked her sup about your situation, and the firearms thing is just the rule for non res passengers, there isn't an explanation for it .
Which is why I will continue to list them under the boycott list until this unexplained rule is changed.
 
#11 ·
Might want to write management about this issue if you want an explanation of the rule or want it changed. The person at the ticket counter very likely doesn't know why such a rule was implemented (if there actually is such a rule in the manual) and has absolutely no authority to implement changes.
 
#12 ·
I am not familiar with the intricacies of the JetBlue buddy pass so I will not pretend to know more then those who obviously do. With that said I did fly JetBlue buddy pass to Puerto Rico a few years back and our luggage was checked in at SL international and we were told it would just be waiting in PR when we got there.

Just as we were getting on the second leg of our flight from JFK to PR, a US Marshall came up to the gate and took my seat. The other two went ahead without me and I spent the some time in the airport.

IIRC, if I did take possession of my bag with a checked firearm at JFK, I would have been in violation of New York law. I believe a case was discussed on this board before about a similar incident that lead to an arrest.

Likewise, if I did not have other passengers that went ahead of me, my baggage would have been unattended at the other end. Just a note, no I did not take a firearm to PR, it is not lawful unless you are law enforcement. Maybe my party was the exception or policies have changed but in the end, my bag went without me.

Another side note: Just because there is a policy of no firearms it does not always mean it was created just to violate your second amendment rights. There are other legitimate reasons for some of these policies.

Flame retardant suit on so flame away!
 
#13 ·
That is really frustrating to be caught off guard, but I see the airlines reasoning for the law, and I don't have a problem with it. They will check you gun normally, but with the above mentioned, possible complications of flying standby, I their liability could increase a lot.

I for one would be OK with everyone on the plane carrying. That would certainly solve this problem. :thumbsup:
 
#14 ·
I think in order to solve the right take your gun, instead of boycotting a company that gave you a "free" ticket to fly ,you pay the taxes, you should just buy a reserved ticket and quit complaining about having to follow the rules implemented by Jetblue onto their employees and their buddy pass non res passengers. As an employee in any company, who does not like a fire arm policy of that company , the employee has the right to quit. In your case you could stop accepting the free buddy passes and pay for a ticket and take your gun with you. Problem solved. :dunno:

Jet blue policies are similar, regarding non res and firearms, as all the other airlines, (according to jet blue management, not me.) So you are going to have to boycott all airlines if this is true. :bat:
 
#15 ·
I think in order to solve the right take your gun, instead of boycotting a company that gave you a "free" ticket to fly ,minus taxes, you should just buy a reserved ticket and quit complaining about having to follow the rules implemented by jet blue onto their employees and their buddy pass non res passengers. As any employee in any company who does not like a fire arm policy of that company , the employee has the right to quit. In your case you could stop accepting the free buddy passes and pay for a ticket and take your gun with you. Problem solved.
Or not! :bat:
 
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