Will a government shutdown impact issuing concealed permits?

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Will a government shutdown impact issuing concealed permits?

Postby partnerslayer » Thu 07 Apr 2011 1:37 pm

Since it looks like the Feds are in a stalemate and we're facing a government shutdown, does anybody know what (if any) the impact will be on issuing a CFP? "Essential" personnel will still be reporting for work, but will this include FBI employees that perform the background check (I think they also check fingerprint cards, but I'm not 100% sure)? I turned in my paperwork three and a half weeks ago, so I'm going to be more than a little upset if the shutdown delays the permit.
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Re: Will a government shutdown impact issuing concealed permits?

Postby Car Knocker » Thu 07 Apr 2011 1:42 pm

BCI has traditionally issued permits pending the federal background/fingerprint check.
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Re: Will a government shutdown impact issuing concealed permits?

Postby lmj301 » Thu 07 Apr 2011 1:59 pm

the UT law says that the permit must be issued within 60 days. It (to my knowlege) gives no exemptions for the state if they cannot get an answer from the FBI.
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Re: Will a government shutdown impact issuing concealed permits?

Postby UtahCFP » Thu 07 Apr 2011 5:07 pm

The just-released CFP instructor newsletter says "Another change involves fingerprints. If an applicant submits fingerprints that are not accepted by the FBI or fails to provide BCI with an additional set of fingerprints, the permit may be denied, suspended or revoked."

Not sure what new law this is referring to, but perhaps a consequence is that FBI check is now required before issuance (rather than the old way of issue if no word back from FBI in reasonable amount of time).

Anybody got the new law handy... ?
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Re: Will a government shutdown impact issuing concealed permits?

Postby partnerslayer » Thu 07 Apr 2011 5:20 pm

I haven't been contacted by BCI (knock on wood) so I'll assume they're happy with my application so far. My hunch is FBI background checks would fall under essential duties (I know the regular agents along with intelligence agencies are classified as such) so hopefully it won't cause any problems. Thanks for the feedback!
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Re: Will a government shutdown impact issuing concealed permits?

Postby RustyShackleford » Fri 08 Apr 2011 4:32 pm

With State law having a 60 day or else limit to issue the permit, I would think if the FBI (or Feds) have a problem doing their job, it should not stop the issuance of the permit within the 60 day time table.
The State chooses to do the background check through the FBI. I don't think the FBI check is federally mandated. And even if it were, holding up the issuance (infringing) on our right to protection could get them in trouble.
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Re: Will a government shutdown impact issuing concealed permits?

Postby roseblood » Fri 08 Apr 2011 4:36 pm

UtahCFP wrote:The just-released CFP instructor newsletter says "Another change involves fingerprints. If an applicant submits fingerprints that are not accepted by the FBI or fails to provide BCI with an additional set of fingerprints, the permit may be denied, suspended or revoked."


"not accepted" would mean that the prints were unreadable by the FBI, it doesn't mean that there was no one there to receive them.
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Re: Will a government shutdown impact issuing concealed permits?

Postby dewittdj » Fri 08 Apr 2011 8:47 pm

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Re: Will a government shutdown impact issuing concealed permits?

Postby RustyShackleford » Sat 09 Apr 2011 5:55 am

dewittdj wrote:Moot question now... shutdown averted at the last minute... http://www.ksl.com/?nid=157&sid=14596540

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