I had to go to the UVU bookstore to get a book for my online class (books are a freaking racket, let me tell you, but that's for another topic). My wife and I had gone to the range on her lunch break and I was open carrying so I decided to just go ahead and open carry into the school. Most people didn't notice, a few did, and a few people stared, but most of the people that I saw that noticed I was carrying would make sure to turn their heads away as I was passing. It made me laugh. Nobody commented on it though. I kept expecting to get Campus police called on me for a "man with a gun" call, but luckily nothing happened. Hooray! :thumbup:
Oh I absolutely agree. That's why I was worried the whole time because I know that there is a bad pattern already. Hopefully we can change it one experience at a time.
You don't think that people OC'ing and helping to get people used to seeing firearms is an accomplishment? I think it takes one positive experience at a time. Maybe that's just me.
You don't think that people OC'ing and helping to get people used to seeing firearms is an accomplishment? I think it takes one positive experience at a time. Maybe that's just me.
You don't think that people OC'ing and helping to get people used to seeing firearms is an accomplishment? I think it takes one positive experience at a time. Maybe that's just me.
I'm not advocating you become the test case, unless you really want go there.
I applaud your action. I'd love to see more people do it. But, that's all it was -- an action. An accomplishment is a result of the action, usually associated with a desired or intended goal.
I'm not advocating you become the test case, unless you really want go there.
I applaud your action. I'd love to see more people do it. But, that's all it was -- an action. An accomplishment is a result of the action, usually associated with a desired or intended goal.
Well, technically my desired goal was to not be harassed for carrying, and that's what happened, so by the pedantic definition of accomplishment, it WAS one, albeit a small one. And probably not very noteworthy. But I understand what you're saying.
I totally agree on the book thing. haha We actually talked about guns in one of my classes. Turns out my Professor has a CFP as well. Only the school doesn't let him bring his gun with him on campus. Good to hear that you had a good experience. :thumbsup:
If your professor is teaching at a public university or college, the institution doesn't have the authority to prohibit him from carrying on campus. The Legislature has reserved all authority to regulate firearms and they have not delegated any regulatory authority to schools.
If your professor is teaching at a public university or college, the institution doesn't have the authority to prohibit him from carrying on campus. The Legislature has reserved all authority to regulate firearms and they have not delegated any regulatory authority to schools.
If your professor is teaching at a public university or college, the institution doesn't have the authority to prohibit him from carrying on campus. The Legislature has reserved all authority to regulate firearms and they have not delegated any regulatory authority to schools.
Yes, but state governmental agencies are constrained by the Legislature from making policies regarding firearms under U.C.A. 53-5a-102 and U.C.A. 76-10-500
Yep, ALL STATE schools, colleges, and universitys are prohibited from having, making, or enforcing any policy restricting the carry/possessesion of firearms of ANYONE.
That said, I suspect that more than one will or has decided that they need to let someone go and will make things up to get it done.
"oh, I can't fire you for your gun possession but we have reports and evidence of this.... " And then you are gone and left to try prove the reason you were terminated was not valid!
Yep, ALL STATE schools, colleges, and universitys are prohibited from having, making, or enforcing any policy restricting the carry/possessesion of firearms of ANYONE.
That said, I suspect that more than one will or has decided that they need to let someone go and will make things up to get it done.
"oh, I can't fire you for your gun possession but we have reports and evidence of this.... " And then you are gone and left to try prove the reason you were terminated was not valid!
It's much simpler than that. Utah is a right to work state. Employment can be terminated for no reason at all. The employer doesn't need to cite a reason. Problem is, most HR staff/supervisors/managers, etc are too stupid to realize they just need to keep their mouths shut. It is human nature for people to want to talk.
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