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Idaho Enhanced Permit (carry in Nevada)

Postby legalheat » Tue 03 Dec 2013 3:46 pm

As many of you may be aware the Idaho enhanced permit carries reciprocity with Nevada (as well as New Mexico). We have been teaching these classes throughout Idaho for the past year. The class curriculum is 8 hours and must be taught (at least in part) by an Idaho attorney or certified LEOs. We have Idaho attorneys on staff that live in Northern Utah. We've been getting a lot of calls about Utah residents wanting this permit. We're floating the idea of holding one of these classes at our office in North Ogden before Christmas if there's interest. Probably Sat. 12-14-13. My apologies if this is posted in the wrong area, i'd seen some people discussing this in various topics.
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Re: Idaho Enhanced Permit (carry in Nevada)

Postby kdt1970 » Tue 03 Dec 2013 7:34 pm

What kind of prices are we looking at?
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Re: Idaho Enhanced Permit (carry in Nevada)

Postby Snurd » Tue 03 Dec 2013 7:36 pm

kdt1970 wrote:What kind of prices are we looking at?

In this other thread he said $100.

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Re: Idaho Enhanced Permit (carry in Nevada)

Postby dewittdj » Tue 03 Dec 2013 8:25 pm

I'm interested in taking a class in N. Ogden before Xmas for the Idaho Enhanced Permit.

Colorado has formal reciprocity with Utah.
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Which can be verified at: http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/FAQother.html or at: http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/CDPS-CBIMain/CBON/1251622200175

Lucky for us the class is taught by Idaho lawyers! :wink:
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Re: Idaho Enhanced Permit (carry in Nevada)

Postby kdt1970 » Tue 03 Dec 2013 8:41 pm

They are referring to the IDAHO ENHANCED PERMIT for a Utah Resident.

"The state of Colorado no longer recognizes the validity of any permit issued by any state to a nonresident of that state (see C.R.S 18-12-213 amended 2007), specifically they must be a resident of the state that issued the concealed handgun permit and must be in possession of a valid drivers license or identification card issued by that same state."
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Re: Idaho Enhanced Permit (carry in Nevada)

Postby dewittdj » Tue 03 Dec 2013 8:49 pm

So what part of "Resident Only" applies to a Utah permit holder seeking an Idaho Enhanced Permit?

Oops! I scrolled their map down and read the logo... :oops: Silly me...
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Re: Idaho Enhanced Permit (carry in Nevada)

Postby jfwright1955 » Tue 03 Dec 2013 8:50 pm

I'm interested. Count me in. North Ogden works for me as does December 14.
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Re: Idaho Enhanced Permit (carry in Nevada)

Postby JoeSparky » Wed 04 Dec 2013 3:44 am

I am interested
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Re: Idaho Enhanced Permit (carry in Nevada)

Postby D-FIN » Wed 04 Dec 2013 8:44 am

If the Class is $100 what are the state fees?

Will there be any the same price say ....in February? In December it cuts too much into Christmas money or I'd sign up on the spot.
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Re: Idaho Enhanced Permit (carry in Nevada)

Postby kdt1970 » Wed 04 Dec 2013 3:15 pm

State fee...CWL/ECWL prices raise July 1, 2013 to $75-new/$45-renewal
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Re: Idaho Enhanced Permit (carry in Nevada)

Postby D-FIN » Wed 04 Dec 2013 3:42 pm

Is the price the same for resident vs non-resident?
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Re: Idaho Enhanced Permit (carry in Nevada)

Postby JoeSparky » Wed 04 Dec 2013 6:52 pm

Is there a formal Pre-registration process or just show up with our money?
What do prospective students need to bring and be prepared to do?
Where will the class be held?

You know, all the questions a person who is going to do all they can to be there would need the answers too.
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Re: Idaho Enhanced Permit (carry in Nevada)

Postby dewittdj » Wed 04 Dec 2013 9:18 pm

JoeSparky wrote:Is there a formal Pre-registration process or just show up with our money?
What do prospective students need to bring and be prepared to do?
Where will the class be held?

You know, all the questions a person who is going to do all they can to be there would need the answers too.

Like search the web and find only partial answers or incomplete information on various ID County websites... Even the ID AG webpage only has a list of FAQs for the standard permit.

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LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF IDAHO
Sixty-second Legislature First Regular Session - 2013
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
HOUSE BILL NO. 192
BY STATE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE
AN ACT RELATING TO LICENSES TO CARRY CONCEALED WEAPONS; AMENDING SECTION 18-3302, IDAHO CODE, TO REVISE RENEWAL AND FEE PROVISIONS FOR LICENSES TO CARRY CONCEALED WEAPONS; AMENDING CHAPTER 33, TITLE 18, IDAHO CODE, BY THE ADDITION OF A NEW SECTION 18-3302K, IDAHO CODE, TO PROVIDE FOR THE ISSUANCE OF ENHANCED LICENSES TO CARRY CONCEALED WEAPONS, TO PROVIDE FEES, TO PROVIDE PROCEDURES, TO PROVIDE DUTIES OF THE IDAHO STATE POLICE AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND TO PROVIDE APPLICATION; AMENDING SECTION 9-340B, IDAHO CODE, TO PROVIDE REFERENCE TO ADDITIONAL RECORDS THAT ARE EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE WITH EXCEPTIONS; AND PROVIDING SEVERABILITY.

Be It Enacted by the Legislature of the State of Idaho:

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That Chapter 33, Title 18, Idaho Code, be, and the same is hereby amended by the addition thereto of a NEW SECTION, to be known and designated as Section 18-3302K, Idaho Code, and to read as follows: 18-3302K. ISSUANCE OF ENHANCED LICENSES TO CARRY CONCEALED WEAPONS. (1) The sheriff of a county shall, within ninety (90) days after the filing of an application by any person who is not disqualified from possessing or receiving a firearm under state or federal law and has otherwise complied with the requirements of this section for an enhanced license, issue an enhanced license to the person to carry a weapon concealed on his person. Licenses issued under this section shall be valid for five (5) years from the date of issue. (2) A person may file an application with the sheriff of the county in which he resides or, if not an Idaho resident, with the sheriff of any county in Idaho. The license application shall be in a form to be prescribed by the director of the Idaho state police, and shall ask the name, address, description and signature of the licensee, date of birth, place of birth, social security number, military status, citizenship and the driver's license number or state identification card number of the licensee if used for identification in applying for the license. If the applicant is not a U.S. citizen, the application shall also require any alien or admission number issued to the applicant by U.S. immigration and customs enforcement, or any successor agency. The application shall indicate that the provision of the social security number is optional. The sheriff shall make such applications readily available at the office of the sheriff or at other public offices in his jurisdiction. The license application shall contain a warning substantially as follows:  CAUTION: Federal law and state law on the possession of weapons and firearms differ. If you are prohibited by federal law from possessing a weapon or a firearm, you may be prosecuted in federal court. A state permit is not a defense to a federal prosecution. (3) The sheriff shall require any person who is applying for original issuance of a license to submit his fingerprints in addition to the other information required in this section. Within five (5) days after the filing of an application, the sheriff shall forward the application and fingerprints to the Idaho state police. The Idaho state police shall conduct a national fingerprint-based records check, an inquiry through the national instant criminal background check system, and a check of any applicable state database, including a check for any mental health records that would disqualify a person from possessing a firearm under state or federal law, and shall return the results to the sheriff within seventy-five (75) days. If the applicant is not a U.S. citizen, an immigration alien query shall also be conducted through U.S. immigration and customs enforcement or any successor agency. The sheriff shall not issue a license before receiving and reviewing the results of the records check. (4) The sheriff shall deny an enhanced license to carry a concealed weapon if the applicant is disqualified under any of the criteria listed in section 18-3302(1)(a) through (n), Idaho Code, or does not meet all of the following qualifications: (a) Has been a legal resident of the state of Idaho for at least six (6) consecutive months before filing an application under this section or holds a current license or permit to carry concealed firearms issued by his state of residence; and (b) Has successfully completed within twelve (12) months immediately preceding filing an application, a qualifying handgun course as specified in this paragraph and taught by a certified instructor who is not prohibited from possessing firearms under state or federal law. A copy of the certificate of successful completion of the handgun course, in a form to be prescribed by the director of the Idaho state police and signed by the course instructor, shall be submitted to the sheriff at the time of filing an application under this section. Certified instructors of handgun courses when filing an application under this section shall not be required to submit such certificates but shall submit a copy of their current instructor's credential. The sheriff shall accept as a qualifying handgun course a personal protection course offered by the national rifle association or an equivalent course meeting the following requirements: (i) The course instructor is certified by the national rifle association, or by another nationally recognized organization that customarily certifies firearms instructors, as an instructor in personal protection with handguns, or the course instructor is certified by the Idaho peace officers standards and training council as a firearms instructor; (ii) The course is at least eight (8) hours in duration; (iii) The course is taught face to face and not by electronic or other means; and (iv) The course includes instruction in: 1. Idaho law relating to firearms and the use of deadly force, provided that such instruction is delivered by either of the following whose name and credential shall appear on the certificate: (A) An active licensed member of the Idaho state bar; or (B) A law enforcement officer who possesses an intermediate or higher Idaho peace officers standards and training certificate. 2. The basic concepts of the safe and responsible use of handguns; 3. Self-defense principles; and 4. Live fire training including the firing of at least ninety-eight (98) rounds by the student. (5) The license will be in a form substantially similar to that of the Idaho driver's license. It will bear the signature, name, address, date of birth, picture of the licensee, expiration date and the driver's license number or state identification  card number of the licensee if used for identification in applying for the license. The license shall be clearly distinguishable from a license issued pursuant to section 18-3302, Idaho Code, and shall be marked "Idaho enhanced concealed weapons license" on its face. Upon issuing a license under the provisions of this section, the sheriff shall notify the Idaho state police within three (3) days on a form or in a manner prescribed by the Idaho state police. Information relating to an applicant or licensee received or maintained pursuant to this section by the sheriff or Idaho state police is confidential and exempt from disclosure under section 9-340B, Idaho Code. (6) The fee for original issuance of a license shall be twenty dollars ($20.00), which the sheriff shall retain for the purpose of performing the duties required in this section. The sheriff may collect any additional fees necessary to cover the processing costs lawfully required by any state or federal agency or department, and the cost of materials for the license lawfully required by any state agency or department, which costs shall be paid to the state.  (7) The fee for renewal of the enhanced license shall be fifteen dollars ($15.00), which the sheriff shall retain for the purpose of performing duties required in this section. The sheriff may collect any additional fees necessary to cover the processing costs lawfully required by any state or federal agency or department, and the cost of materials for the license lawfully required by any state agency or department, which costs shall be paid to the state. (8) Every license that is not, as provided by law, suspended, revoked or disqualified in this state shall be renewable at any time during the ninety (90) day period before its expiration or within ninety (90) days after the expiration date. Renewal notices shall be mailed out ninety (90) days prior to the expiration date of the license. The sheriff shall require the licensee applying for renewal to complete an application. The sheriff shall submit the application to the Idaho state police. The Idaho state police shall conduct the same records checks as required for an initial license under subsection (3) of this section and shall return the results to the sheriff within thirty (30) days. The sheriff shall not issue a renewal before receiving and reviewing the results of the records check and must deny a license if the applicant is disqualified under any of the criteria provided in this section. A renewal license shall be valid for a period of five (5) years. A license so renewed shall take effect on the expiration date of the prior license. A licensee renewing ninety-one (91) days to one hundred eighty (180) days after the expiration date of the license shall pay a late renewal penalty of ten dollars ($10.00) in addition to the renewal fee, except that any licensee serving on active duty in the armed forces of the United States during the renewal period shall not be required to pay a late renewal penalty upon renewing ninety-one (91) days to one hundred eighty (180) days after the expiration date of the license. After one hundred eighty-one (181) days, the licensee shall be required to submit an initial application for an enhanced license and to pay the fees prescribed in subsection (6) of this section. The renewal fee and any penalty shall be paid to the sheriff for the purpose of enforcing the provisions of this chapter. Upon renewing a license under the provisions of this section, the sheriff shall notify the Idaho state police within five (5) days on a form or in a manner prescribed by the Idaho state police. (9) The sheriff shall have the power to revoke a license  issued pursuant to this section subsequent to a hearing in accordance with the provisions of chapter 52, title 67, Idaho Code, for any of the following reasons, provided that the sheriff shall notify the Idaho state police within three (3) days on a form or in a manner prescribed by the Idaho state police of any such revocation:  (a) Fraud or intentional misrepresentation in the obtaining of a license; (b) Misuse of a license, including lending or giving a license to another person, duplicating a license or using a license with the intent to unlawfully cause harm to a person or property; (c) The doing of an act or existence of a condition that would have been grounds for the denial of the license by the sheriff; (d) The violation of any of the provisions of this section; or (e) The applicant is adjudicated guilty of or receives a withheld judgment for a crime that would have disqualified him from initially receiving a license.  (10) An applicant who  provides information on the application for an enhanced license to carry a concealed weapon knowing the same to be untrue shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. (11) The attorney general shall contact the appropriate officials in other states for the purpose of establishing, to the extent possible, recognition and reciprocity of the enhanced license to carry a concealed weapon by other states, whether by formal agreement or otherwise. (12) Any license issued pursuant to this section is valid throughout the state of Idaho and shall be considered an authorized state license. (13) The Idaho state police shall maintain a computerized record system that is accessible to law enforcement agencies in any state for the purpose of verifying current enhanced licensee status. Information maintained in the record system shall be confidential and exempt from disclosure under section 9-340B, Idaho Code, except that any law enforcement officer or law enforcement agency, whether inside or outside the state of Idaho, may access the record system for the purpose of verifying current enhanced licensee status.  SECTION 3. That Section 9-340B, Idaho Code, be, and the same is hereby amended to read as follows: 9-340B. RECORDS EXEMPT FROM DISCLOSURE -- LAW ENFORCEMENT RECORDS, INVESTIGATORY RECORDS OF AGENCIES, EVACUATION AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLANS, WORKER'S COMPENSATION. The following records are exempt from disclosure: (1) Investigatory records of a law enforcement agency, as defined in section 9-337(7), Idaho Code, under the conditions set forth in section 9-335, Idaho Code. (2) Juvenile records of a person maintained pursuant to chapter 5, title 20, Idaho Code, except that facts contained in such records shall be furnished upon request in a manner determined by the court to persons and governmental and private agencies and institutions conducting pertinent research studies or having a legitimate interest in the protection, welfare and treatment of the juvenile who is thirteen (13) years of age or younger. If the juvenile is petitioned or charged with an offense which would be a criminal offense if committed by an adult, the name, offense of which the juvenile was petitioned or charged and disposition of the court shall be subject to disclosure as provided in section 20-525, Idaho Code. Additionally, facts contained in any records of a juvenile maintained under chapter 5, title 20, Idaho Code, shall be furnished upon request to any school district where the juvenile is enrolled or is seeking enrollment.  (3) Records of the custody review board of the Idaho department of juvenile corrections, including records containing the names, addresses and written statements of victims and family members of juveniles, shall be exempt from public disclosure pursuant to section 20-533A, Idaho Code.  (4) (a) The following records of the department of correction: (i) Records of which the public interest in confidentiality, public safety, security and habilitation clearly outweighs the public interest in disclosure as identified pursuant to the authority of the Idaho board of correction under section 20-212, Idaho Code; (ii) Records that contain any identifying information, or any information that would lead to the identification of any victims or witnesses; (iii) Records that reflect future transportation or movement of a prisoner; (iv) Records gathered during the course of the presentence investigation; (v) Records of a prisoner, as defined in section 9-337(10), Idaho Code, or probationer shall not be disclosed to any other prisoner or probationer.  (b) Records of buildings, facilities, infrastructures and systems held by or in the custody of any public agency only when the disclosure of such information would jeopardize the safety of  persons or the public safety. Such records may include emergency evacuation, escape or other emergency response plans, vulnerability assessments, operation and security manuals, plans, blueprints or security codes. For purposes of this section "system" shall mean electrical, heating, ventilation, air conditioning and telecommunication systems.  (c) Records of the commission of pardons and parole shall be exempt from public disclosure pursuant to section 20-213A, Idaho Code, and section 20-223, Idaho Code. Records exempt from disclosure shall also include those containing the names, addresses and written statements of victims. (5) Voting records of the sexual offender classification board. The written record of the vote to classify an offender as a violent sexual predator by each board member in each case reviewed by that board member shall be exempt from disclosure to the public and shall be made available upon request only to the governor, the chairman of the senate judiciary and rules committee, and the chairman of the house of representatives judiciary, rules and administration committee, for all lawful purposes. (6) Records of the sheriff or Idaho state police received or maintained pursuant to sections 18-3302, and 18-3302H and 18-302K, Idaho Code, relating to an applicant or licensee except that any law enforcement officer and law enforcement agency, whether inside or outside the state of Idaho, may access information maintained in the license record system as set forth in section 18-3302K(13), Idaho Code.  (7) Records of investigations prepared by the department of health and welfare pursuant to its statutory responsibilities dealing with the protection of children, the rehabilitation of youth, adoptions and the commitment of mentally ill persons. For reasons of health and safety, best interests of the child or public interest, the department of health and welfare may provide for the disclosure of records of investigations associated with actions pursuant to the provisions of chapter 16, title 16, Idaho Code, prepared by the department of health and welfare pursuant to its statutory responsibilities dealing with the protection of children except any such records regarding adoptions shall remain exempt from disclosure.  (8) Records including, but not limited to, investigative reports, resulting from investigations conducted into complaints of discrimination made to the Idaho human rights commission unless the public interest in allowing inspection and copying of such records outweighs the legitimate public or private interest in maintaining confidentiality of such records. 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(10) The worker's compensation records of the Idaho industrial commission provided that the industrial commission shall make  such records available:  (a) To the parties in any worker's compensation claim and to the industrial special indemnity fund of the state of Idaho; or (b) To employers and prospective employers subject to the provisions of the Americans with disabilities act, 42 U.S.C. 12112, or other statutory limitations, who certify that the information is being requested with respect to a worker to whom the employer has extended an offer of employment and will be used in accordance with the provisions of the Americans with disabilities act, 42 U.S.C. 12112, or other statutory limitations; or (c) To employers and prospective employers not subject to the provisions of the Americans with disabilities act, 42 U.S.C. 12112, or other statutory limitations, provided the employer presents a written authorization from the person to whom the records pertain; or (d) To others who demonstrate that the public interest in allowing inspection and copying of such records outweighs the public or private interest in maintaining the confidentiality of such records, as determined by a civil court of competent jurisdiction; or (e) Although a claimant's records maintained by the industrial commission, including medical and rehabilitation records, are otherwise exempt from public disclosure, the quoting or discussing of medical or rehabilitation records contained in the industrial commission's records during a hearing for compensation or in a written decision issued by the industrial commission shall be permitted; provided further, the true identification of the parties shall not be exempt from public disclosure in any written decision issued and released to the public by the industrial commission.  (11) Records of investigations compiled by the commission on aging involving vulnerable adults, as defined in section 18-1505, Idaho Code, alleged to be abused, neglected or exploited.  (12) Criminal history records and fingerprints, as defined by section 38 67-3001, Idaho Code, and compiled by the Idaho state police. 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Re: Idaho Enhanced Permit (carry in Nevada)

Postby JoeSparky » Wed 04 Dec 2013 9:29 pm

Thanks dDwitt....

But, I was going more towards what Specifics for this course offering to be held in North Ogden on Dec 14th taught by legal heat.
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Re: Idaho Enhanced Permit (carry in Nevada)

Postby dewittdj » Wed 04 Dec 2013 9:47 pm

JoeSparky wrote:Thanks dDwitt....

But, I was going more towards what Specifics for this course offering to be held in North Ogden on Dec 14th taught by legal heat.

Yep... I know you were... :wink:, I just couldn't help myself, when I tried to find some general information the link to the Idaho Legislative site was so hosed up that it was nearly laughable.

Some common questions that should have been addressed in the original solicitation are:

Who?
What?
Where?
When?
How long?
What to bring?
How much will it cost?
What is included?
What isn't include?
etc.
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