Just a heads up for those that may be interested, it appears that NV will begin recognizing AZ permits on July 1.
(shhh .... nobody tell Nevada)[URL=http://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03112.htm:1ri6zm4c said:ARS § 13-3112[/URL]":1ri6zm4c]
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E. The department of public safety shall issue a permit to an applicant who meets all of the following conditions:
1. Is a resident of this state or a United States citizen.
2. Is twenty-one years of age or older.
3. Is not under indictment for and has not been convicted in any jurisdiction of a felony unless that conviction has been expunged, set aside or vacated or the applicant's rights have been restored and the applicant is currently not a prohibited possessor under state or federal law.
4. Does not suffer from mental illness and has not been adjudicated mentally incompetent or committed to a mental institution.
5. Is not unlawfully present in the United States.
6. Has ever satisfactorily completed a firearms safety training program authorized by the department of public safety pursuant to subsection N, paragraph 1 of this section or has ever demonstrated competence with a firearm as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 of this section and provides adequate documentation that the person has satisfactorily completed a training program or demonstrated competence with a firearm in any state or political subdivision in the United States. For the purposes of this paragraph, "adequate documentation" means:
(a) A certificate, card or document of completion from a firearms safety training program authorized pursuant to subsection N, paragraph 1 of this section, dated not more than five years earlier than the date of application, that has affixed to it the stamp, signature or seal of the instructor or organization that conducted the program, or a current or expired permit issued by the department of public safety pursuant to this section.
(b) An original or copy of a certificate, card or document that shows the applicant has completed any course or class prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 or 9 of this section or an affidavit from the instructor, school, club or organization that conducted or taught the course or class attesting to the applicant's completion of the course or class.
(c) An original or a copy of a United States department of defense form 214 (DD-214) indicating an honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions, a certificate of completion of basic training or any other document demonstrating proof of the applicant's current or former service in the United States armed forces as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 6 of this section.
[background=yellow](d) An original or a copy of a concealed weapon, firearm or handgun permit or a license as prescribed by subsection N, paragraph 7 of this section.[/background]
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N. An applicant shall demonstrate competence with a firearm through any of the following:
1. Completion of any firearms training program that is approved by the department of public safety and that is conducted by instructors who are authorized by the department of public safety or who possess current national rifle association instructor certifications in pistol and personal protection and who submit to a background investigation, including a check for warrants and a criminal history records check.
2. Completion of any firearms safety or training course or class that is available to the general public, that is offered by a law enforcement agency, a junior college, a college or a private or public institution, academy, organization or firearms training school and that is approved by the department of public safety.
3. Completion of any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Arizona game and fish department or a similar agency of another state.
4. Completion of any national rifle association firearms safety or training course.
5. Completion of any law enforcement firearms safety or training course or class that is offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies or other divisions or subdivisions of law enforcement or security enforcement and that is approved by the department of public safety.
6. Evidence of current military service or proof of honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions from the United States armed forces.
[background=yellow]7. A valid current or expired concealed weapon, firearm or handgun permit or license that is issued by another state or a political subdivision of another state and that has a training or testing requirement for initial issuance.[/background]
8. Completion of any governmental police agency firearms training course and qualification to carry a firearm in the course of normal police duties.
9. Completion of any other firearms training that the department of public safety deems acceptable.
So you can carry in Arizona with out a permit? But they do have an Arizona ccw permit anyway?UtahJarhead said:Constitutional Carry doesn't mean their permit went away. It just means it's not required.
I believe Alaska does the same thing.jobot said:So you can carry in Arizona with out a permit? But they do have an Arizona ccw permit anyway?UtahJarhead said:Constitutional Carry doesn't mean their permit went away. It just means it's not required.
That's correct. Think about it - if an AZ resident comes to Utah, they wouldn't be able to carry -- hence, having a permit for those who travel makes sense, even if constitutional carry is enacted. I would hope that Utah will do the same thing (if/when consta-carry is enacted here).jobot said:So you can carry in Arizona with out a permit? But they do have an Arizona ccw permit anyway?
I had to shoot during my CFP class.... and the instructor said it was required. The requirement was so weak that my 13 year old daughter could (and did) shoot well enough to satisfy it on her first ever time picking up a weapon.... but still....Sam Fidler said:I guess that's because AZ has a shooting requirement for their concealed permit. It's one that Ray Charles could pass but they still have one. :roll:
That's because a shooting requirement is feel-good legislation. That way, legislators can say, "See, they have to 'qualify' with a firearm before they can get the permit." Same thing goes for Hunter's Safety by the way.gravedancer said:I had to shoot during my CFP class.... and the instructor said it was required. The requirement was so weak that my 13 year old daughter could (and did) shoot well enough to satisfy it on her first ever time picking up a weapon.... but still....
Ooops. Thanks for the correction. I guess I should have specified: Of the states where you CAN carry a firearm, Vermont is the only one that doesn't have a permit process.Sam Fidler said:No, Wisconsin and Illinois do not have permits making them the only two states were concealed carry is not allowed in any form.
Nevada doesn't differentiate between resident and non-resident permits.Snaggle said:Question is will NV recognize NON-resident permits from Arizona?
All training for an AZ CCW permit MUST be conducted within the borders of the state of Arizona.
Yes, and Wyoming I believe.UtahCFP said:I believe Alaska does the same thing.jobot said:So you can carry in Arizona with out a permit? But they do have an Arizona ccw permit anyway?UtahJarhead said:Constitutional Carry doesn't mean their permit went away. It just means it's not required.
Does Alaska have a shooting requirement for their permit?Beretta96 said:Nevada doesn't differentiate between resident and non-resident permits.Snaggle said:Question is will NV recognize NON-resident permits from Arizona?
Out of State Carry Concealed Weapon Permit Recognition
*Effective July 1, 2011
In accordance with NRS 202.3689 (effective October 1, 2007) the State of Nevada will recognize the following States' CCW permit holders:
Alaska
Arizona*
Arkansas
Kansas
Kentucky*
Louisiana
Michigan
Missouri
Nebraska
New Mexico
North Carolina
Ohio
Tennessee
Rhode Island
West Virginia
This law allows holders of valid permits from these states to carry a concealed weapon while in the State of Nevada. The permit must be in the possession of the issue at all times while carrying a firearm.
IIRC they do have a shooting requirement. We will be working on changing NV CCW laws in 2013 so stay tuned. We did get some big changes but we are fighting the NSCA so it's not easy.UtahCFP said:Does Alaska have a shooting requirement for their permit?Beretta96 said:Nevada doesn't differentiate between resident and non-resident permits.Snaggle said:Question is will NV recognize NON-resident permits from Arizona?
Out of State Carry Concealed Weapon Permit Recognition
*Effective July 1, 2011
In accordance with NRS 202.3689 (effective October 1, 2007) the State of Nevada will recognize the following States' CCW permit holders:
Alaska
Arizona*
Arkansas
Kansas
Kentucky*
Louisiana
Michigan
Missouri
Nebraska
New Mexico
North Carolina
Ohio
Tennessee
Rhode Island
West Virginia
This law allows holders of valid permits from these states to carry a concealed weapon while in the State of Nevada. The permit must be in the possession of the issue at all times while carrying a firearm.