Welcome from Provo (about 30 mins south of SLC)! Glad you found the forum - you'll find it to be a great resource. Stick around and post often.
As to your questions:
Q_Continuum wrote:Regarding signs - in Minnesota, we have explicit wording, size, and location as to what a 'legal' sign is, but walking past a sign itself isn't a violation of the law. (Most of us refuse to enter and do business with such locations, unless we absolutely can't for some reason) What is Utah's take on signs, and their 'value' in the law?
In Utah, signs banning firearms carry no legal weight. The only places you can not carry are Federal buildings and places of worship that have registered with the BCI (for example, no carry in LDS meeting houses).
Like you, many of us choose not to do business with those who ban firearms, but any sign prohibiting guns carries no weight of law. Simply, if you are "caught" with a firearm on their property, the property owner can choose to ask you to leave. If you do not, you may
be violating trespassing laws (dependent on the cop), but having a legally-possessed firearm in a store with a "no firearms" sign is not a crime in-and-of-itself.
You're correct that the MN permit is valid here, and it's good as long as you want it to be (as long as you keep it current). Though, I would recommend that you get your Utah permit sooner than later so as to not not violate Federal law should you need to enter a school zone. According to Federal law, you must have a permit from the state you reside in to carry in a school zone (k-12 only; colleges are covered under state law, and Utah's state law says a permit from any state/county in the US is allowed), so your MN permit doesn't allow you to carry at your kid's school (if you have kids) here in Utah.
We have many Utah CFP instructors here on the site -- I'm sure you can find a class that fits your needs should you go that route.
Q_Continuum wrote:When I came to visit last summer (July/Aug 2011) - I had gotten info from (one) person that on a permit in Utah it HAD to be concealed - and printing or having it visible in any manner was a violation of the law. I have since picked up the notion that this is a common misnomer for many folks - and that Utah doesn't specify mode of carry (concealed/visible, or some combination thereof) when on a permit. Clarification would be nice.
Utah does not specify the firearm must be concealed. Because you have a permit, you can carry as you wish -- open carry, concealed, or "casually concealed". Several of us (myself included) generally choose to "casually conceal"; meaning that I occasionally carry a full-size 1911 on the outside of my belt with my t-shirt lightly pulled over it, exposing the firearm frequently and printing badly. It's perfectly legal to do so (and much more comfortable than shoving a 1911 in my belt, heh).
If you didn't have a permit, open carry is still legal -- though, the firearm must be two actions from firing (termed "Utah unloaded), and must not be concealed.
Q_Continuum wrote:Notification - in Minnesota, we were not REQUIRED to notify an officer if we were carrying, or even that we had a permit. (It was recommended by many if the stop might involve getting out of a vehicle, for example) What is Utah's take on this?
There is no requirement to notify in Utah law. Many chose to notify (depending on the situation), and many don't care to. I'm on the "don't care to" bandwagon. It sounds like MN and Utah are the same in that regard.This sticky
has handy-dandy links to many of the local and Federal laws regarding firearms. It's a great resource.
Welcome to Utah, and carry often!
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