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http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8451232

A tragic story. The girls found her grandmother's legally concealed weapon and shot herself. Luckily, it appears she will recover. I usually don't like seeing sad posts about guns, but this one may have significant impact on concealed carry holders:
Stewart said as of right now they (Sam's Club) do not have a policy on concealed weapons, but after this incident, that could change.

"While we don't have a sign posted, I think everyone knows the rules and laws. We are working with police to make changes if necessary," said Stewart.
 

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Why is people's first reaction to try to make some kind of rule, pass some kind of regulation, or institute some kind of policy? :disgusted:

The grandmother was leaglly concealed carrying. Apparently, she wasn't doing it responsibly, or else the kid wouldn't have gotten a hold of the gun. I would imagine Grandma is pretty shook up about nearly killing her grandkid, and she'll be more careful with her gun. :dunno:

Why does Sam's club now feel like they're going to have to try to infringe on everyone else's rights. :roll:
 

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I'm sure they've had traffic accidents in their parking lots. Why do they still allow cars?
 

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Very sad story, I am always sorry to hear about this kind of accident. My question is when someone dies on the ski slope, gets hurt on a dirt bike or an atv or killed in an auto accident why don't the red flags go up and laws start being changed to protect us all ? I know they do to some extent and people jump on all kinds of band wagons but none more than the firearm issue. On a percentage basis firearms accidents are way low compared to some of the other's.We don't need anymore fuel for the fire right now !!!! I hope every time we hear of an incident like this we double our safety efforts.
 

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Just wait and see, it will not be long that they are posted. With Wal Mart going to bed with Bloomberg it will not surprise me.
 

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Just wait and see, it will not be long that they are posted. With Wal Mart going to bed with Bloomberg it will not surprise me.
Unfortunately, you're probably right.

There are way too many people wanting to ban guns in the name of safety, and just itching to find some justification to do so. :disgusted:
 

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This is just one of the reasons I don't like off-the-body carry. People forget that the gun is in their bag or purse and then the risk for inappropriate use goes sky-high. I know it's harder for women to CC on their persons, but it's so much safer.
 

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A couple of years ago, my then 6 year old granddaughter spent the summer with us.

One of the first things I did was take her to my room, sit her down, show her my carry gun and explain to her what it is and why I carry it. (to protect those I love.)

I taught her the first 2 firearms rules, (Treat every gun as if it is loaded and never point any gun at anything you don't want to destroy) and I gave her strict instructions that if she ever saw a gun she was not to touch it , but was to go immediately to an adult she trusted and tell them what she had seen.

If you teach them correct principles then they can govern themselves.

I know my granddaughter learned her lesson as illustrated by the following story.

My wife, my daughter, my granddaughter and I were on a hike in the woods. I was pointing out the beauties of nature, which is my way, and we came across some bear scat. I pointed this out to my family and as my granddaughter realized what this was and what it meant about the trail that we were on, her eyes got very big and she looked up at me and said. "Grandpa, do you have your gun with you?" I answered that I did. She let out a relieved sigh and said. "Oh good." She knew that I was still able to protect her.

It is the vested responsibility of those who chose to carry to educate those they love and are to protect, as to the nature, purpose and proper handling of firearms.

This grandmother did not fulfill her responsibility.

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GeneticsDave said:
This is just one of the reasons I don't like off-the-body carry. People forget that the gun is in their bag or purse and then the risk for inappropriate use goes sky-high. I know it's harder for women to CC on their persons, but it's so much safer.
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I think that if it comes down to having to carry a gun in a purse or bag, that purse/bag would need to have a secret or more concealed pocket. It seems to me that if it is just loose inside the purse that you would even run the chance for an AD anyways. Imagine if you weren't familiar with guns and you found a lost purse with a gun inside. Doesn't seem to make sense why a someone would carry a gun so casually. You do have to remember that when you carry a gun OC or CC that you still are aware that you have both bullets and a gun on you. Never underestimate the impossible, because it will become possible. It's sad that this happened, yet grateful it didn't kill her or injure her worse. Maybe we could get a contact name for Walmart/Sam's Club to show support of their existing/no existent policy that they did have over guns. They do sell guns at Walmart so I would think that they are pro gun. Unfortunatly the mistake of one person effects the rest.
 

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Tarzan1888 said:
One of the first things I did was take her to my room, sit her down, show her my carry gun and explain to her what it is and why I carry it. (to protect those I love.)

I taught her the first 2 firearms rules, (Treat every gun as if it is loaded and never point any gun at anything you don't want to destroy) and I gave her strict instructions that if she ever saw a gun she was not to touch it , but was to go immediately to an adult she trusted and tell them what she had seen.

If you teach them correct principles then they can govern themselves.

It is the vested responsibility of those who chose to carry to educate those they love and are to protect, as to the nature, purpose and proper handling of firearms.
ABSOLUTELY.

I have had a .38 for years that I mostly just left in the safe. When my wife and I decided we were going to start carrying and we bought some additional guns, we decided the first thing to do was to educate our 10 year old boy.

We went to the store and found a nice head-sized nearly round watermelon. We went with our boy out to where we shoot, and told him we needed to talk about safety before we did anything else. We went over the basics of gun safety, and what to do if he ever encountered a gun (don't touch it; get an adult, etc.) Then we showed him why. I got the watermelon out and compared it to my head - roughly the same size and shape, hard on the outside soft in the middle. I took it down range and set it up, then asked our boy to imagine that it was his 2 year old baby brother's head. My wife took the shot - center of the melon with a 9mm hollow point from her Beretta. The watermelon absolutely EXPLODED. Our boys face was white and he said he felt a little dizzy. :shock:

A lesson was learned - thankfully the easy way.
 

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My son was about 6 when I brought my Kimber home. I brought him in and showed him how to check to make sure it was clear. We discussed the 4 rules then I told him he could look at it/inspect it any time he wanted to; he just had to ask me. With the novelty and desire for the forbidden removed he has never tired to sneak behind me to play with it. The watermelon sounds like a good approach too. Wish I would have thought of it then.
 

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GeneticsDave said:
This is just one of the reasons I don't like off-the-body carry. People forget that the gun is in their bag or purse and then the risk for inappropriate use goes sky-high. I know it's harder for women to CC on their persons, but it's so much safer.
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Off-body carry makes it much harder to control the firearm.
 
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