All most poked holes as a civilan tonight

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Discussion Starter · Feb 17, 2008

I got off work late around 2300 and my _______ driveway is blocked again. I lay on my _______ horn untill the neighbor starts pounding homies door, soon the _____ that stole my snow shovel movers her car, no _______ good so I lay on the horn again for about five straight minutes. Mother _______ bucks up, with five homies behind him, he comes straight at me pointing and shoouting, I shout back up! While reaching for my gun! (Done that a few too many times.) These guys never saw the business end but, suddenly got apologetic, and moved their _______ car. I have no doubt that the apologizes would not have been there without the gun.

I went straight inside and took the shotgun out of the safe. The wife and I going to the range tomorrow. Her usual is in the shop, she needs some time with the sig and the gauge. I live in the hood and homies looked gangsta but, I know I have fired more rounds then they have. I may have even killed more than all of them combined have. Still it may be time to move.

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Cinhil

· #2 · Feb 17, 2008

OK, next time you pull up to your driveway and it is blocked, immediately call the police. Since these individuals have threatened you you may now say you feel your life, or that of your family is in danger as they have threatened you. Also that they refuse to move. The police will hopefully show up and either have them move, site them & have them move, search their persons and vehicle, or arrest them & impound their vehicle. They could even have other charges laid on them.
On another note, though the incident is fresh and your writing displayed the need for profanity, though you didn't use it (it was implied), remember that more is usually accomplished without the use of profanity than with it.
As for time to move, if the neighborhood is that bad the time was months ago--so find a new place asap.

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Discussion Starter · #3 · Feb 17, 2008

Thanks for all the great advice dad, where do I send the extra fathers day card?

Ruger Collector

· #4 · Feb 17, 2008

I'd also vote for moving last year.

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GeneticsDave

· #5 · Feb 17, 2008

I'm not going to tell you what you should or should not have done, but what ever happened to just knocking on the door and asking them to move politely? Seems like rude behavior (laying on the horn for five minutes) begets rude behavior.

And, I don't even want to know about:

hedonistic said:
While reaching for my gun! (Done that a few too many times.)

TMG

· #6 · Feb 17, 2008

hedonistic said:
Thanks for all the great advice dad, where do I send the extra fathers day card?

I thought he gave you good advice! Instead of sarcasm, you should simply thank him. He's right.
As for me, well, I'm not as P.C. I think you were the instigator, and they way you handled the situation was B.S.!

I have no doubt that the apologizes would not have been there without the gun.

And I have no doubt that you wouldn't have acted the way you did without it.

Carrying a gun doesn't give you the right to act foolish.

jmo. E

bane

· #7 · Feb 17, 2008

While I can certainly sympathize with Hedonistic's frustrations (been there myself, there always seems to be some neighbor that just doesn't give a crap about anyone else)... I also agree with the general sentiments of everyone else in this thread... namely, reacting that way is not likely to get you the results you want, is likely to lead to a situation where you would have need to use your firearm, and is also likely to lead to a judge feeling you were the instigator, and thus NOT the defender when you used your gun.

Anytime we feel we have anger issues, we owe it to ourselves to stop carrying until we get those issues resolved. Otherwise, we are bound to find ourselves in trouble that cannot be corrected.

Shaolin

· #8 · Feb 17, 2008

bane said:
While I can certainly sympathize with Hedonistic's frustrations (been there myself, there always seems to be some neighbor that just doesn't give a crap about anyone else)... I also agree with the general sentiments of everyone else in this thread... namely, reacting that way is not likely to get you the results you want, is likely to lead to a situation where you would have need to use your firearm, and is also likely to lead to a judge feeling you were the instigator, and thus NOT the defender when you used your gun.

Anytime we feel we have anger issues, we owe it to ourselves to stop carrying until we get those issues resolved. Otherwise, we are bound to find ourselves in trouble that cannot be corrected.

100% right. Not the right way to carry ourselves.

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Discussion Starter · #9 · Feb 17, 2008

I will concede that twelve, a judge, and a prosecutor would have more than likely at the very least looked at coming after me. I will also concede that I could have conducted my self a little better.

Rude, was more than called for; there many previous instances of this group blocking my driveway. Polite, friendly, neighborly routes have all been exhausted, there is a time for rude. Rude, in this instance should have been letting the police handle it.

As far as pointing guns and firing shots at actual human beings, once, is more than enough. That being said I have done that more than once, twice (pointing) couns as an MP and more than a few times in the sand box. I hope that clears up the perception that am a straight up thug. I am more than ready to find a better neighborhood.

UtahCFP

· #10 · Feb 18, 2008

The aspect of the situation that the prosecuting attorney might try to press is -- "just who was it that was doing the escalation?" I think I'd go with the recommendation to get the police to handle. Also has the effect of having the police keep track of the offenses -- very handy in courtrooms, I hear.

I am not an attorney, and I don't play one on the Internet.

- Dave

Strategic Tactical

· #11 · Feb 18, 2008

Hedonistic, I know where you come from (former MP and a trip to the box myself) the hard thing is to realize....this isn't the sand box. As a civilian, I'm yet to point my firearm at anyone (Except working armed security with my license) Contact the police. If they do not do anything, contact their Sgt and so on... You know the chain of command ordeal. Also, if anything else does happen, this can help cover your buitt in court as it will show the NUMEROUS times that you have tried to handle the situation with police involvement. Be safe, carry often, Train ALWAYS....NEVER STOP THINKING AHEAD.

XD_EE

· #12 · Feb 18, 2008

Having a gun *should* cause one to act more politely. Just because certain things "make" us mad, we shouldn't react but rather act. Doing this will inevitably better the outcome.

If you find yourself "reaching for your gun" a lot then maybe it is time to rethink the attitude and then the places you frequent (or live).

Let's all be the better person by being POLITE.

Just my opinion... :roll:

PS Hedonistic, this is not necessarily directed at you but is a general comment on the subject.

Dustin WJ

· #13 · Feb 19, 2008

I agree that being the better person, by being polite, is always the better way. ESPECIALLY when firearms are involved.

xmirage2kx

· #14 · Feb 19, 2008

It is all about articulation. It doesnâ€™t matter if you walk up to someone and say hello or walk up and shoot them in the face so long as you can articulate why you did it. Just remember that any time your gun comes out it will have to be defended in court. You are left with the responsibility to explain your actions in such a way as to keep your backside out of jail. A Major roll in doing that is to prove that you were nothing but polite and a gentleman prior to your actions.

Huge29

· #15 · Mar 25, 2008

TMG said:
hedonistic said:

Thanks for all the great advice dad, where do I send the extra fathers day card?

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I thought he gave you good advice! Instead of sarcasm, you should simply thank him. He's right.
As for me, well, I'm not as P.C. I think you were the instigator, and they way you handled the situation was B.S.!

I have no doubt that the apologizes would not have been there without the gun.

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And I have no doubt that you wouldn't have acted the way you did without it.

Carrying a gun doesn't give you the right to act foolish.

jmo. E

+1 well stated!

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Discussion Starter · #16 · Mar 25, 2008

PS

Within about 10 of writing this my driveway was blocked again but bu cars with little lights on top. I haven't seen any of the neighbors from either side since. I had only seen Homies vehicle thee or so times after the incident before they all got a new address at the county clink. :ROFL:

mchlwise

· #17 · Mar 26, 2008

TMG said:
And I have no doubt that you wouldn't have acted the way you did without it.

Carrying a gun doesn't give you the right to act foolish.

+1 on both counts.

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