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I go to the indoor range about once a week and so I need practice ammo that isn't terribly expensive. My self defense round is either Speer Gold Dot or Federal Hydashock in the .38 +P flavor. Both of these are very expensive. I have found that Fiocchi and Sellier & Bellot ammo has about the same feel as the self defense ammo. These are much less money. I especially like the Sellier & Bellot in the 158 gr. SP. Even though these are not .38 +P they have about the same recoil punch as the SD ammo. That's good for practice.

Now about some [substandard] ammo. I bought a box of PMC 148 gr. these are standard round tip with no jacket. I knew that I would have to spend a little more time cleaning the gun but that wasn't the worst. When you fired a round it put out a ton of smoke. The 2 guys next to me gave me a dirty look. It was embarrassing and I quit after 30 rounds. This is not the bronze, silver, or gold edition ammo so I don't know if they have the same problem. It is more like generic ammo than anything else. My gun was filthy and it took me a long time to clean it last night. The Crimson Trace laser lens was even dirty. This is just a warning if you are shooting indoors. The Sellier & Bellot and Fiocchi ammo is quite clean IMO and I will pay a couple of bucks more for it.

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I feel terrible that you had to substitute a word. I want you all to know that I didn't use bad language. I probably judged the brand a little harsher than I should. I apologize.
 

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I bought some of that PMC ammo at the gun show but it is clad and I shoot outdoors so I guess I haven't noticed if there was any smoke. What I did notice with the PMC is that it is a hotter load than my hollowpoint Gold Dots. After 50 rounds my hands hurt. This was with a Kel Tec P32 so I know that contributed to the sore hands.

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I feel terrible that you had to substitute a word. I want you all to know that I didn't use bad language. I probably judged the brand a little harsher than I should. I apologize.
You show great character.
 

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Jeff Johnson said:
In the interest of keeping the forum family-friendly and clean, there are ongoing discussions amongst the moderators as to what words or phrases should be disallowed. It's not a perfect process and we're trying to achieve the above goal without being too heavy-handed.

On another forum I visit, they have a saying: "If you haven't been moderated yet, then you're not posting enough..." :lol:

I'm hoping that nobody here who does get moderated takes it wrong or gets offended. Moderating a forum is a necessary, but not always fun job. We appreciate everyone's input and participation here and don't want to chase anyone away.

Hijack done. Carry on...
[not substituted by moderator, but I felt left out :wink: ] it, I guess I got to post more.... lol
 

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Just for cheap plinking ammo, I tend to buy the Winchester ammo in the white box at Walmart. I have used it in the 9mm, .40 and even the .38.
The nice thing about the .38 is you can buy cheaper ammo and not have to worry about loading problems.
 

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I bought some 'Cowboy Action' style ammo at Gallenson's a long time back, trying to save some green on .38 special ammo. Ammo was reloaded with lead flat tips - shot well, but it really dirtied up the barrel. The $3.50 I saved over Winchester White Box was NOT worth the extra cleaning I had to do - plus worry about the reload quality as well. WWB is about the best deal you can get on plinking ammo without going to a factory reloader at the Gun Show.
 
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