No offense bane, but you have got to be kidding about the legislation comment. The last thing we need is more stupid legislation. Just clean your own glass or don't drink from it. I haven't died from drinking from hotel glasses yet and I don't even clean mine. (I might start cleaning them now though.) I also saw the local news story a month ago and it was disgusting, but to suggest legislation....bane said:...I am waiting to see major litigation and/or pushes for new legislation over this sort of thing.
WOAH! That sounded like a bit of a flame!PW said:No offense bane, but you have got to be kidding about the legislation comment. The last thing we need is more stupid legislation. Just clean your own glass or don't drink from it.bane said:...I am waiting to see major litigation and/or pushes for new legislation over this sort of thing.
Good. I guess I thought you were saying there should be legislation on this type of thing....I misinterpreted your post. "I am waiting" (your words) sounds like you are WANTING to see....not expecting to see. Sorry...bane said:OK, first I didn't say that I SUPPORTED the legislation or lawsuit routes... only that I am expecting to see them.
If you don't get what you expect, talk to management and the good businesses will quickly meet your expectation. And if they don't meet your expectation, tell them and go elsewhere. I don't think you should have to vaccum your own room and wash your own sheets, or clean your own glass either. I expect those things to be clean also. However if they aren't, I also expect the hotel to correct the problem and most will.bane said:[EDIT: Additionally, the argument that one should clean their own glass in a hotel is hard to follow. I have never been in a hotel and seen a bottle of dish-soap provided at my sink with which I could wash my glass, nor a washcloth, towel, or drying rack. Additionally, I guess I should also clean my own sheets, tub, toilet, tables, chairs, and vacuum my own room immediately upon checking in???]
Maybe we shouldn't expect clean glasses in hospitals, restaurants, the dentist's office, etc, either. Maybe we should abandon all concern for public cleanliness and revert to Middle Ages European standards.
Expecting me to clean my own hotel glass because of a fear of any new laws is "the other side of the same coin" of passing new and stupid legislation that doesn't actually accomplish anything. Both positions do not improve our situation.
Public outcry will kill a business faster than anything out there. If the public wants civil action I say let some dumb sucker go for it. Not sure anyone could win a civil case by claiming they got sick or emotionally scared from having a dirty drinking glass in their hotel room, but hey I guess they can waste their money trying if they want to. Criminal action, I'm not so sure about. It would be very difficult to hold anyone criminally liable for having dirty glasses in hotel rooms. I bet in most cases it is the individual maid that is simply not following hotel policy. I bet most hotels have written policies concerning the cleaning of glasses and the maids in most instances are probably simply not following the hotels policy. Now if a manager or someone knows they aren't following policy and turns a blind eye, maybe then, but most good businesses have good managers that will simply reprimand or fire the person who is not following policy. Seems like a waste of tax dollars to even try to hold anyone criminally liable in this case.bane said:However, cleaning a drinking glass in a hotel room with a poop-contaminated glove and using toxic cleaners to clean that glass are exactly the same thing as putting rat poison and human feces in my meal order... both of which demand NOT ONLY a public outcry but harsh widespread criminal action.
There have been several of these reports by news agencies lately. It seems to be the "new" thing to do. There's also an email going around to the same effect.Jeff Johnson said:
Amen brother!T-Man said:I travel a lot as part of my job. I sleep in the hotel sheets and sit on the chairs. Do I really think these have been cleaned to remove 100% of germs and DNA from previous guests? No. But I have never, to my knowledge, caught an illness from staying at a hotel. I also drink tap water, eat hotdogs at Costco, and put ice in my Mt. Dew at the gas station. Sensationalist news programs would have me afraid to even leave the house if I put stock into all their "hidden camera investigations." Bottom line is, I take responsibility for my actions. I don't blame the store or the government for my problems and I don't expect anyone to go around "protecting" me and my family from germs, scam artists, or sex offenders. I take that responsibility into my own hands. Government regulations meant to prevent bad things from happening to us have the same effect as laws making murder a crime. The crime still happens, but it keeps the lawyers in business.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8)bane said:Speaking from my own experience when I was on my mission in Brasil... I know for a fact that you can get intestinal worms from accidentally allowing a bit of the tap water into your mouth while taking a shower... nearly uncontrollably crapping my pants rushing to get off the bus on my way home, while bent over holding my gut in extreme pain as I speed-shuffled off the bus and down my alley and later following up with extremely painful stomach aches while taking the de-worming meds... I can tell you... drinking tap water or using ice in some of these countries is just not worth it! If it's been filtered, fine, but not straight from the tap!
I also don't have that much of a problem sleeping in hotel sheets, using the comforters, or sitting on the chairs of hotels. But I have an extremely big problem ingesting the contents of a cup which may have human feces on it or contains toxic substances. It's a matter of the DEGREE of unhealthiness... coming into physical contact with minor bugs in sheets is one thing... swallowing feces and toxic chemicals on glasses is quite another story.