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Another option for concealed carry! Amazing...

http://beltswords.com/

It's a 33-inch sword with a flexible blade that fits inside a wide belt and wraps around your waist.

Be warned that several of the videos feature a topless model, with long hair more or less obscuring the essentials.

Edited to change the link. Originally it linked to the videos -- I thought it was to the dressed model.
 

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whaoa no tube top in that one....

That is pretty cool though. Never would have guessed that sword could have been in there...
 

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Maybe for in close and personal but still not sure about it.
 

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swillden said:
Another option for concealed carry! Amazing...

http://beltswords.com/

It's a 33-inch sword with a flexible blade that fits inside a wide belt and wraps around your waist.

Be warned that several of the videos feature a topless model, with long hair more or less obscuring the essentials.

Edited to change the link. Originally it linked to the videos -- I thought it was to the dressed model.
Next time I need to read the WHOLE post before clicking on a link.. Kinda caught me offgaurd :shocked:
 

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I uh... question the effectiveness of such a weapon.
Based on what it did to the plywood, I have no doubt that if you could get it out and hit someone with it, they'd be seriously hurt. Likely worse than if you shot them. A handgun is obviously effective at much longer ranges, and also at shorter ranges. A sword requires room to swing.

As far as concealment, though, this sword is amazing.
 

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swillden said:
Another option for concealed carry! Amazing...

http://beltswords.com/

It's a 33-inch sword with a flexible blade that fits inside a wide belt and wraps around your waist.

Be warned that several of the videos feature a topless model, with long hair more or less obscuring the essentials.

Edited to change the link. Originally it linked to the videos -- I thought it was to the dressed model.
Sword ??? What Sword ??? There was a Sword there ??? :lol2: :ROFL: :lolbang:

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swillden said:
Another option for concealed carry! Amazing...

http://beltswords.com/

It's a 33-inch sword with a flexible blade that fits inside a wide belt and wraps around your waist.

Be warned that several of the videos feature a topless model, with long hair more or less obscuring the essentials.

Edited to change the link. Originally it linked to the videos -- I thought it was to the dressed model.
Thanks for the warning.......I could lose my Job if I went to the wrong type of sight. :oops:

Tarzan
 

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Tarzan1888 said:
Thanks for the warning.......I could lose my Job if I went to the wrong type of sight. :oops:
Welcome. In addition to the work issue, I like that this is a family-friendly forum and I don't want to undermine that -- but the belt sword was just too cool/weird not to post about.
 

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I like the way that they excuse their choice of model by saying "Never feel Naked Again"

The truth is If I looked like the model and I was dressed like the model, I could probably carry a Howitzer and no one would notice..... :gun2:

Tarzan
 
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swillden said:
Based on what it did to the plywood, I have no doubt that if you could get it out and hit someone with it, they'd be seriously hurt.
Pain and incapacitation are not the same.

swillden said:
Likely worse than if you shot them.
I'm willing to bet that this is true. But again: Pain and incapacitation are not the same.

swillden said:
A handgun is obviously effective at much longer ranges, and also at shorter ranges.
The biggest advantage of the handgun is that it requires less in the way of fine motor skills in order to be effective. Edge control and cut ergonomics are crucial. You have to be able to sever the right tendons in order to remove the physical ability for a limb to harm you. And the human body is built with many such tendons -- backups are available (unless your threat's already an amputee or something).

A handgun, by contrast, requires less sophisticated motor skills. Just squeeze the trigger and keep the sights lined up as well as possible.

The reason firearms ultimately replaced swords in combat is not because they're more effective. You can get AMAZING effectiveness out of a trained swordsman. It's because guns are more effective for less total effort. Accuracy is accuracy regardless of what you're shooting and so it's easier to get an effective marksman at relatively lower costs.

swillden said:
A sword requires room to swing.
Not necessarily. You can employ a drawn cut -- rubbing the edge in a saw-like motion across the target. This will do wide, shallow damage. Not enough for immediately incapacitation but it will ultimately force him to bleed out. If you get a tendon, related dexterity is lost, which is nice, but it doesn't incapacitate other limbs with other muscles. When severing the proper tendons, you can remove dexterity in any of a variety of limbs and you don't need a good, chopping swing.

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As far as concealment, though, this sword is amazing.
But will you be able to deploy this weapon quickly enough? Unraveling it from the belt is kinda tricky. Then you have a flimsy blade that can cut but poses no hard, physical barrier against your threat. Part of the reason a sword is effecitve is because it's a stiff rod of steel that, unless your threat has amazing H-bar mutant powers, poses an impassible barrier between you and your threat.

Making the blade out of a flimsy, bendable piece of tinfoil hardly obstructs the blows of a threat. Sure, it'll "cut him up rough" but will it be strong enough to keep him from doing the same to you?

Nobody in the videos has demonstrated an ability to deploy this weapon with a single hand. Requiring the commitment of both hands assumes you're not already involved in a grapple or that both hands are un-wounded. But if that's the case, shouldn't you be far enough away to make use of your gun?

I have my doubts, based on the geometry and design of the blade, that it can cut straight out of the belt as you'd really need it to in a very close encounter. Even if you did, I have my doubts that using it would keep you from becoming hospitalized.

Sure, these arguments can go as much for a handgun -- but again, handguns require you to demonstrate less skill to gain the needed incapacitation at the same distance that a sword would be effective.

Take it from someone who's felt the difference between a cut bamboo pole and a defiantly-bouncing one. Variation in edge control -- even by a few millimeters -- can mean the difference between a stopped threat and an angry, bleeding crack-head.

Tarzan1888 said:
The truth is If I looked like the model and I was dressed like the model, I could probably carry a Howitzer and no one would notice..... :gun2:
I think Tarzan wins today. The rest of y'all just get to wait until tomorrow to earn the "Awesome Post" title.
 

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Ishpeck said:
swillden said:
Based on what it did to the plywood, I have no doubt that if you could get it out and hit someone with it, they'd be seriously hurt.
Pain and incapacitation are not the same.
Obviously not. But I wasn't referring to pain. Imagine the swordbelt blade coming down on your shoulder, smashing through your collarbone and opening up some large arteries. Knives, in general, are DEADLIER weapons than guns. I've read stats that say that approximately 10% of people who are shot die as compared with 30% of those who are stabbed. Of course, killing is not the same as stopping, but they are related.

Ishpeck said:
swillden said:
A sword requires room to swing.
Not necessarily. You can employ a drawn cut -- rubbing the edge in a saw-like motion across the target.
Not this sword. It has a fairly blunt edge, so you have to have room to swing.

Ishpeck said:
swillden said:
As far as concealment, though, this sword is amazing.
But will you be able to deploy this weapon quickly enough? Unraveling it from the belt is kinda tricky.
Well the topless girl was kind of slow, but I imagine she didn't practice much. The guy in some of the other videos could get it out quite quickly. Not as fast as an OC'd gun, but faster than some CC holsters.

Ishpeck said:
shouldn't you be far enough away to make use of your gun?
I never claimed that a gun wasn't overall a superior weapon, at any range.

I was just countering your claim that this was an "ineffective" weapon. I might agree that it's impractical in many scenarios, but given space to deploy it would create rather vicious wounds that would disable very quickly.

There's also the fact that the swordbelt is more concealable than any but the very tiniest of guns. That model would have a difficult time concealing anything bigger than a derringer, with or without the tube top.
 

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:ROFL:

That is amazing! We should do a mall ninja group buy! :lolbang: The graceful slash is the best video.
 

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Mr. Magnum said:
Would make a great Kilt belt :D .........
:shock: Sorry but I get this vision of you in your kilt, and suddenly this flexible sword breaks through its sheath, cuts through your kilt, and severs valuable things on its way to freedom..... :shocked:

Tarzan
 
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