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DaveyG's "?" on best shotgun ammo for home defense got me thinking... my wife and I both have handguns now for SD so I've been thinking for the past month that the next move (not soon, maybe in a few months) is getting a dedicated home-defense weapon.

Like Davey, I too live in CQ, in a condo.

What do you guys think the BEST (best bang for the $$$) home-defense weapon is?
 

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Alot of people like the cheapy Mossberg (500 I think?) that is commonly found, quiet a bit of aftermarket for them. Put a short barrel on it and whatever other options you want (Pistol grip, folding stock, etc) and call it good.
 

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Everybody needs a shotgun. I would say get a Mossberg 500 (or 590) or a Remington 870. The longer stock barrel is fun for skeet or clay pigeon shooting (or birds if you hunt), and then you just get a 18.5" barrel to put on it whilst at home. Now you have a gun that does two things!

The Mossberg 590s are more tactically oriented. The Remington 870s seem to have after market parts that are more prevalent (perhaps due to LE use of that weapon?), but the gun will run you a little more than a 500.

I like the idea of a varmint rifle, however, I think a shotgun should come first, then get a short range rifle like the AR, then work your way out to a mid or long range high-power rifle with scope (Remington 700 sniper-style rifle).

As far as shot, I would probably stay away from bird shot. A lot of people will tell you it's great at short distances, but I have tried it on watermelons, not too impressive (I used the cheap clay pigeon stuff, #8 shot with low powder load). The stuff that did blow the crap out of a watermelon was the 00 buck. That's what I use, and I have some sabot slugs as well just in case I need to "reach out and touch someone".

Oh, just one more thing. NotSoSimple mentioned a pistol grip. I wouldn't do that. Just my opinion, but a shoulder stock is a lot easier to use than a pistol grip. It's just so much harder to figure out where you're aiming and recoil control becomes an issue. The folding stocks are alright, but somewhat unnecessary unless you just have to pack your shotgun in a small bag or on a backpack.
 

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I will also agree not to put a pistol grip on a Mossberg. I put one on mine and went to Front Sight for the 4 day tacticle shotgun course. The pistol grip slowed down the tacticle reloads and emergency malfunction clearing drills. I took it off and put the regular stock back on when I got home.

But, again it is personal preference. If you buy a Mossber 500 and want a Pistol grip stock I have one for cheap. I was going to put it on Ebay but I like to procrastinate. :oops:
 

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I have a Remington 870 and it's a great gun. Also, as Dave said, you can do different things with it. (Hunting, clay shooting, etc.)
 

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Best Home Defense Weapon
ME I am the weapon, my AR15, Mossberg 500 and Walther P99 .40 cal are just tools :p :lol:
 
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I would say a Benelli M4, but then you may not want to spend the money, but there is a good reason they are so well respected by soldiers.

I know also that the Nova/Super nova line form Benelli, although pumps, have tactical stock and barreled versions and you can interchnage pieces for tactical/recreation uses. These also cost considerably less money than the M4
 

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tapehoser said:
Remmy 870 loaded with 00 buck is what I will have some day. GREAT home defense!
I second this! That is exactly what I want at home.

Though I think I want a Rem. 870 USSS model.
 

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Anybody have a good way to lock the loaded shotgun (not necessarily chambered) so that it can be quickly accessed? There used to be a GunVault thingie for shotguns, but it isn't on their Web site anymore.
 

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FBMG Smithy said:
I also know some that have an AR-15 with varmint rounds in it. The varmint rounds are made to basicly come apart when it hits so the small pieces will not go through walls.
Shotguns seem to be a favorite here. You dont usually think AR when the topic of home defense comes up, but I think an AR carbine is a great choice. They are short and easy to get around with, can be set up with lights and red dots that get you on target fast, and hold 30 rounds (hope it doesnt take that many). Stuff like hornady tap works great for this. 9mm ball has been shown to have a greater over penetration risk than 5.56. On weekends I keep an AR by the bed, and a kimber on the nightstand. I highly doubt that I will ever need that level of firepower to protect my home, but the way I look at it is, it doesnt hurt either. 8)
 

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Well most here have said no pistol grip, I disagree. For the tight quarters like a home you are never going to be more then about 20ft away from the BG. If you can miss at that range with anything, let alone a shotgun, then you need practice before think a gun is a good defensive weapon. The pistol grip drops a few inches off the length and makes it easier to work around corners. I alternate rounds in my shotty Bird, 00, slug, 00, slug. I usually keep the chamber empty as I have a pistol ready to go if I need something faster than I can rack the shotty.
 

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This is the home defense weapon I will be buying/making.

Remi 870, Knoxx, (SureFire optional). I plan on putting a green or red laser and Ghost sites as well instead of the light. The Knoxx is adjustable for the wife and take up some recoil for her. I'll also have a jumbo head safety. See Wilson Combat Accessories here: http://www.wilsoncombat.com/index_sgt_part_acc.htm



For all of the 00 buck, bird shot discussions, please see the following:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot3.htm

You'll not only understand what does and doesn't go through walls, but what to use in your shotgun. End of story is - "Don't point your weapon at anything you don't want to destroy." Including your walls and loved ones behind them. Also, birdshot mames but doesn't stop. 00 Buck stops and kills. Interesting read on Box O' Truth.

Regards,

barl0w
 

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good to know. I figured #6 would have a bit more stopping power than it does. might have to go with 0 or 00 for the first round too.
 
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