hey what is the process of buying a used firearm through ksl.com classifieds? found one i really like. Do I need to get the gun registered or licensed in my name or anything like that. I don't have a CCW permit yet but am planning on getting one. sorry this is a newbie question.
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Can't help a whole lot - I'm sure others will give you specifics on the legal issues. I've always purchased through dealers, FFLs, etc.
But generally, be careful purchasing from regular Joe's off the street. You get no guarantee that the gun even works. Be sure to inspect it very well. If you can, convince the seller to let you shoot it first or take it to a gunsmith for inspection. If it's a dealer or FFL, then you should be good to go.
What are you looking at getting?
But generally, be careful purchasing from regular Joe's off the street. You get no guarantee that the gun even works. Be sure to inspect it very well. If you can, convince the seller to let you shoot it first or take it to a gunsmith for inspection. If it's a dealer or FFL, then you should be good to go.
What are you looking at getting?
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Here's how it works...
Joe Schmo lists firearm on KSL.
You contact Joe Schmo.
Arrange to meet Joe Schmo (armed of course) to inspect said firearm.
If the firearm looks like a good deal, fork over some hard earned cash.
Say thank you and part ways.
Thats it! If you want to make some kind of bill of sale, no problem there. People can legally sell firearms to others if the buyer is at least 18, and is not to YOUR KNOWLEDGE a restricted person. You do not need to provide ID or a CFP. The seller may ask for these things, it is up to you if you want to show them. Also, if you have reason to believe the firearm is stolen, call your local PD with the serial number before buying.
76-10-503. Restrictions on possession, purchase, transfer, and ownership of dangerous weapons by certain persons.
http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE76/htm/76_0C032.htm
76-10-509.9. Sales of firearms to juveniles.
http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE76/htm/76_0C044.htm
Joe Schmo lists firearm on KSL.
You contact Joe Schmo.
Arrange to meet Joe Schmo (armed of course) to inspect said firearm.
If the firearm looks like a good deal, fork over some hard earned cash.
Say thank you and part ways.
Thats it! If you want to make some kind of bill of sale, no problem there. People can legally sell firearms to others if the buyer is at least 18, and is not to YOUR KNOWLEDGE a restricted person. You do not need to provide ID or a CFP. The seller may ask for these things, it is up to you if you want to show them. Also, if you have reason to believe the firearm is stolen, call your local PD with the serial number before buying.
76-10-503. Restrictions on possession, purchase, transfer, and ownership of dangerous weapons by certain persons.
http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE76/htm/76_0C032.htm
76-10-509.9. Sales of firearms to juveniles.
http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE76/htm/76_0C044.htm
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SGT Jensen is right. Just contact them and go buy it. It would be wise to have a working knowledge of what you are buying so you can field strip it and verify everything looks good. It would also be a good idea to take some snap caps so you can dry fire it a few times. If you are unfamiliar with the gun however, the person selling it certainly should be able to take it apart for you to look at it. Ask questions and if you suspect anything shady, walk away.
I think most people/sellers ask for ID and CWP just so they know they are selling to a decent person. I think its a good idea. I'd hate to sell a gun to some idiot.... I think you can be pretty confident you are selling to a decent person if they have a CWP and I think most sellers do it for the peace of mind. I think most people ask for a signed bill of sale so that if the weapon is ever used in a crime or something similar then they can provide documentation that they sold it and who they sold it to. (Cover your a$$ paperwork) Again in my opinion a good idea. You never know who you are selling to....
So what are you looking at? Which gun? You can pick up some awesome deals on secondhand guns if you are patient.
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I think most people/sellers ask for ID and CWP just so they know they are selling to a decent person. I think its a good idea. I'd hate to sell a gun to some idiot.... I think you can be pretty confident you are selling to a decent person if they have a CWP and I think most sellers do it for the peace of mind. I think most people ask for a signed bill of sale so that if the weapon is ever used in a crime or something similar then they can provide documentation that they sold it and who they sold it to. (Cover your a$$ paperwork) Again in my opinion a good idea. You never know who you are selling to....
So what are you looking at? Which gun? You can pick up some awesome deals on secondhand guns if you are patient.
-PW
I have used KSL classifieds on 1 shotgun sale and 1 pistol swap. I sold an Ithaca 37 shotgun to some guy. No back ground checks or anything. I did check his ID and had him sign a bill of sale with his name, date, and the gun model and description.
The pistol swap was when I had a Glock 27 and swapped it for a Glock 23. I got the better end of that deal because the 23 I got had 2004 manufactured Tritium sights. The 23 also appeared to be brand new where my 27 was is good condition but over 10 years old. In this transaction we both ID'ed and wrote out the sale information to cover both sides of it.
Both times the guys looked pretty reputable and stable so I felt comfortable. If the guy wanting the gun seemed unsavory I personally would not do it. I know that might tick off some of you or seem very judgmental, but I just don't want to be the one who sells the "just out of the state hospital guy" his first pistol. I understand you can't tell in some cases, but if I get a feeling I am not going to sell it.
As far as buying, there are websites that can help you to know what to check for in a used semi-auto pistol, shotgun, revolver, rifle, etc. The handgun I got was in dang near perfect condition. Both magazines were so new they hadn't loosened up at all, the feed ramp had almost no traffic on it, etc. You could always try to get them to meet at a public range to test fire it once and make sure it all works but I haven't tried that myself yet.
The pistol swap was when I had a Glock 27 and swapped it for a Glock 23. I got the better end of that deal because the 23 I got had 2004 manufactured Tritium sights. The 23 also appeared to be brand new where my 27 was is good condition but over 10 years old. In this transaction we both ID'ed and wrote out the sale information to cover both sides of it.
Both times the guys looked pretty reputable and stable so I felt comfortable. If the guy wanting the gun seemed unsavory I personally would not do it. I know that might tick off some of you or seem very judgmental, but I just don't want to be the one who sells the "just out of the state hospital guy" his first pistol. I understand you can't tell in some cases, but if I get a feeling I am not going to sell it.
As far as buying, there are websites that can help you to know what to check for in a used semi-auto pistol, shotgun, revolver, rifle, etc. The handgun I got was in dang near perfect condition. Both magazines were so new they hadn't loosened up at all, the feed ramp had almost no traffic on it, etc. You could always try to get them to meet at a public range to test fire it once and make sure it all works but I haven't tried that myself yet.
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All of the above advice is GOOD,chris5184 said:
It might be a good idea, along with the bill of sale, to have a knowleagble friend, who knows guns go along to look over the gun for you, too.
good luck
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This would ONLY apply if you are SELLING the gun, not buying it. :lol: :lol: :lol:Sup3D said:Oh, I forgot one thing . . .
Take a loaded, ready to use gun, open or preferably concealed, whichever you can with you. I had visions of me showing up and some want to be felon taking the gun from me by force without paying.
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But I know it's happened the other way as well - particularly because most of these transactions are with cash. You show up to pay for a gun and instead get it pointed at you, your cash taken, and nothing to show for it.Tarzan1888 said:
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Since I always carry I didn't think of it in that way, but very good point.apollosmith said:
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PS It would be hard to do if this is your first gun purchase, though, and that is another reason to take a second party with you.
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