[UtahRSO]

First of all, let me say that I would carry in church, if it were allowed. I'm still hoping that notice on the BCI site will die. However, I got a new perspective on this the other day.

I heard that a certain facility (probably the Conference Center) of the LDS Church had been (still might be for all I know) monitored by metal detectors. Some guy going in was asked by a security guard to not enter while carrying. Rather than honor that request, the person went to another door, out of sight of that particular security guard, and attempted to enter there.

This situation is a little different than some we've discussed. Here we're talking not only about a privately owned facility, but also one that is a secured area. I think it's counterproductive for the guy to act like that. Why are some places posted? Because the owners think we're irresponsible. What did this guy's action show? That he's irresponsible. And he attempted to break the law, for that matter.

We may have all sorts of arguments about why certain places should not be posted against our concealed carry. But they're never going to be un-posted unless those who say they are the "good guys" act like they are.

 

[Udink]

...the person went to another door, out of sight of that particular security guard, and attempted to enter there.

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Here we're talking not only about a privately owned facility, but also one that is a secured area.

Are you saying that this other door didn't have metal detectors or security guards? If that's the case, it certainly doesn't qualify as a secure area.

That doesn't mean I agree with what the guy did. I'd have simply left and not come back.

 

[Car Knocker]

The mere presence and use of a metal detector does not make a location a legal secured area.

 

[UtahRSO]

No, I'm sure there was a metal detector there too. The first security guard was also on the ball and saw him trying to get in at the other door.

This post could be longer, because I keep writing and then erasing. The guy's actions bother me. Maybe I'll just leave it at that.

 

[Jeff Johnson]

This guy's actions, as you described them, are irresponsible. He was breaking the law. And yes, he hurt the image of our community.

If he doesn't like the church's ban, he is free not to enter the facility.

The better thing to do is to work within the system to educate those who don't understand self-defense.