[apollosmith]

If you carry at work....
1. Does your employer know?
2. If you thought your employer or fellow employees finding out would harm your business relationships, would you carry anyway?
3. To you, is carrying at work for safety, or political reasons?

Any further thoughts? I'm all ears..

1. My employer does not know... I think. If they did, I wouldn't really care. I work at a state university, so they can't do anything about it. My boss knows I have my permit and probably suspects that I carry, but I doubt she has been able to detect my concealed firearm.
2. Anybody I do business with will not find out because I carry concealed.
3. My priority is always safety. Anything political is secondary to the safety of myself and my family. Anybody that carries primarily for political reasons probably needs to rethink their motivations... or they don't care about life very much.

 

[mchlwise]

1. My direct supervisor knows I have my permit, and I believe knows or at least suspects I carry. My co-workers do not.

2. At this point I don't know if my employees finding out will hurt my relationship with them or not, which is why I carry concealed and intend to continue to do so.

3. I carry concealed at work for the same reason I carry concealed anywhere else - personal protection. If I wanted to make a political statement, I would open carry.

 

[jimtheguern]

If you carry at work....
1. Does your employer know?
2. If you thought your employer or fellow employees finding out would harm your business relationships, would you carry anyway?
3. To you, is carrying at work for safety, or political reasons?

Any further thoughts? I'm all ears..

1. I work at the U and as most of you know we are allowed to carry with a permit. The section I work in isn't what I would call pro-gun so I keep my carry pretty much a secret.

2. There was an incident back around christmas when a student (who I assume had a cfp, but have no actual evidence of that) was sitting in one of the galleries on the building. He was obviously trying to conceal carry but hadn't noticed that his shirt had ridden up slightly and exposed the grip of his pistol. Sadly someone spotted this and all **** broke lose. The campus PD were called in but naturally by the time they arrived he was gone without incident. I still say that this is a good example of the precious moments that would be lost if we simply relied on the cops to protect us and our students. Needless to say I spent the next week trying to explain to people that it is perfectly ok to carry on campus with a permit and that anyone who had plans to "shoot the place up" wouldn't be carrying a single concealed pistol while reading the paper and having lunch. I was a little shocked at the amount of people who weren't aware of the campus policy. And of course the amount who were just totally clueless. Having faced that I decided it was best to keep it on the QT. I still carry and always will and I know there ARE many like minded people on campus (many of whom are actually working in the English department of all places).

3. For me the work carry is more about safety. It's not that shootings in schools happen, it's that they seem to happen a lot. I deeply hope that it is something that I never have to face but if I do I want to be prepared for it. I would be lying if I said there was no political reasoning behind it also.

The story I related in answer no 2 really hit home for me the old saying "When you have seconds to live the cops are only minutes away". In this case it was more like 30 minutes away. It's going to be a long journey for all of us who are trying to educate others but one worth taking. Personally I feel that if I can get through to just one person then I would have achieved something. We each have the right to defend ourselves regardless of where we are. And I certainly don't think we can rely on the "appointed protectors" to do it for us.

 

[Guest]

Most everyone at my works knows I carry. In fact, it has inspired 3 others to get their permits. Now we all shoot together.

 

[Mazellan]

1. Yes I carry at work. I work less than part time and I don't think my boss knows. I carry concealed IWB.

2. There is another shipping clerk that I work with that knows that I have a CFP but I am unaware that he knows I carry.

3. I carry at work for personal protection and protection of others.

 

[UTOC-45-44]

If you carry at work....
1. Does your employer know?
2. If you thought your employer or fellow employees finding out would harm your business relationships, would you carry anyway?
3. To you, is carrying at work for safety, or political reasons?

Any further thoughts? I'm all ears..

VERY strongly suspects, or even knows it due to the fact that he saw me on the news. And made a comment about it kinda.

TJ

 

[divegeek]

I primarily work from home, but for the rare occasion that I do go into the office, my boss knows that I carry and has no problem with it, in spite of the fact that it's against the written company policy.

He found out one day when we visited a client who I thought might have metal detectors, and would definitely not have liked me packing. There wasn't an opportunity for me to disarm discreetly, so I decided that it would be less embarrassing to take it off with his knowledge rather than walk in and risk getting stopped by security. He was quite surprised when I pulled the gun and spare magazine out of my SmartCarry holster, but wasn't bothered by it. Mostly he was amazed at how well-concealed it was. As I locked the gun in his trunk, he commented that his son had been bugging him to get a CFP, and we had a good chat about my reasons for carrying.

 

[Paul]

1. Yes (I am the owner)
2. Yes. I require other employees to carry concealed partly because I don't want any relationships damaged. Without my business, I really have no life. (Family first, work second, everything else comes later.) Not sure what I would do if I worked for an anti employer.....tought decision there.
3. Protection. However, I think that lots of permits and people carrying sends a political message to politicians, and criminals.

 

[Tarzan1888]

I'll Never Tell....... :crown:

Tarzan

 

[tapehoser]

I posted a similar reply on this topic in another thread. Here's my thinking on the issue, as far as I'M concerned. This only applies to me.

I have [firearm] restrictions at my work and I choose to obey their rules because my first concern is about my family, NOT myself. I also enjoy my job. I enjoy what I do and the people I work with and feel that my company treats me fairly and pays me well for a day's work. I work to support my family. I work so that they can have a roof over their heads. I work to keep food in their tummies. I also have a seriously healthy life insurance policy that would provide for them, should I perish. Don't get me wrong, when I am at home or with my family [anywhere outside of work], I will do everything in my power to protect their lives and keep them safe. But I will not sacrifice their long-term security for my immediate safety a few hours of the day, if that makes sense.

 

[scott.pete06]

If you carry at work....
1. Does your employer know?
2. If you thought your employer or fellow employees finding out would harm your business relationships, would you carry anyway?
3. To you, is carrying at work for safety, or political reasons?

Any further thoughts? I'm all ears..

1. We have a no weapons policy at our office, I get around this by driving a lot, and only being in the office an hour a day. I figure if they have no metal detectors or guards they are not taking my safety seriously, so I will.
2. Everyone knows I'm a big shooter and a gun nut, and that I have my permit, mostly because I'm trying to educate people on firearms. Yet I tell everyone I carry out side of work only. It would not only tick off my boss, but also probably get me fired if they did know.
3. I work at a company that deals with "high risk people." So I carry for safety. If I ever need to shoot someone at work, I don't think I'll care if they fire me, it will be the least of my problems.

Yes I know it's against the law to carry in a no gun zone, but it's not posted on the entrance, and quite frankly I don't care, my safety is #1 to me.

 

[scott.pete06]

But I will not sacrifice their long-term security for my immediate safety a few hours of the day[/b][/i], if that makes sense.

I understand that, but being unmarried (I can't say single or I upset my girlfriend), with no one to take care of but me, I choose safety, and security. Although when children come in to your life every thing changes, mostly for the better I hope.

 

[GeneticsDave]

Yes I know it's against the law to carry in a no gun zone, but it's not posted on the entrance, and quite frankly I don't care, my safety is 2 to me.

It's not against the law for you to carry at your work. It's against company policy. They can terminate your employment, but that's as far as it goes. Unless you work for a federal agency, in a federal building or in a secure location (airport, courtroom, police station or mental facility), you are not doing anything illegal.

 

[Ty]

I work a job where I drive a company truck and enter peoples houses everyday. I am not allowed to carry in the company truck and the work I do with the house owner watching me they would see my pistol rather easily since they usually watch me like a hawk. Also it's not comfortable to wear IWB with a full tool belt or a tight safety climbing belt.

 

[bane]

Wow... LOTS of interesting replies to this thread! Makes good reading.

1) It is not against company policy to carry (I checked) -- policy only forbids brandishing, threatening, etc. So I carry concealed. I am not aware that anyone knows, including my employer.

2) NOT carrying at work due to someone finding out would be a tough call. I'm a P/T Intern and the experience I am getting there is invaluable for my career. Plus, I have never ever worked for anyone better or that I felt cared more about me as a person and were more than willing to be flexible regarding my schooling and even family needs. But if it did come up I probably wouldn't NOT carry unless I was being directed to -- and even then, most likely I would try and appeal the issue to the CEO and see if perhaps he wouldn't agree with my reasoning (after all, I've been carrying just about as long as I've worked there and to date have not shot the place up or been violent or rude in any way). But if it really came down to it... I'd probably just switch to SmartCarry and keep it to myself.

3) I have to admit, I STARTED carrying primarily for political reasons. Contrary to some, I do feel CC can be a political statement: #1 -- I add to the numbers of people with a permit (which makes it clear to the Legislature my general opinion regarding guns), and #2 -- I don't hide it from those I know quite as much as many other people do... I don't go around telling it and to this day 98% of everyone I know don't know that I carry... but I have decided that if the topic comes up I will defend it and if they then get curious and ask if I have a permit I will admit it and if they then ask if I carry I will admit that too... in other words, a layered response. So far it seems to work well. I have decided that I agree with OC'ers in principle but find it far too inconvenient due to work & school. Perhaps someday when I work from home and am done with school I will OC. And so, b/c of that, I don't care that much if people around me know I carry -- but I just want to slow their acquiring that knowledge so the whole family doesn't freak out all at once and get each other into some sort of crazed outrage. Teaching 1 person at a time is quite a bit easier than teaching a whole group since they'll usually play off of each other's fears. Also, when the topic DOES FINALLY come up, it's much easier to talk rationale into them by way of EXAMPLE (i.e.: TEACH them they have no reason to fear that I am carrying, as opposed to merely TELLING them not to be scared) if I can say something like, "well I've been carrying concealed around you every day for the last 3 years and I haven't yet shot the place up or threatened anyone nor did my gun start shooting by itself" -- if I just strapped the thing on and walked into my parent's house during a family get-together... well, that would obviously not have the same effect.

But having said that, I have become more and more aware of the real dangers inherent in every day life and the real need (and moral imperative) to carry for self-defense reasons too. And that reason is probably now my main reason. But carrying primarily for political reasons, I don't think, should be viewed as wrong nor should the person be made to think that "they should probably rethink their motivations... or they probably don't care about life very much" (sorry, Smith, no ill-will intended, just disagreeing)... after all, "the pen is mightier than the sword" and political tyranny ultimately leads to physical bondage. Carrying for political reasons *IS* carrying for self-defense -- it's just a different aspect of it.

 

[bane]

Have you tried carrying an extremely small piece??? My wife has a P3-AT and I can't see any possible reason you couldn't carry that.. the thing literally weighs almost nothing and on a big heavy tool-belt I highly doubt you'd notice any extra weight. The nice thing is that they are also pretty cheap.

I've been tempted to buy one myself and not carry my 9 as much.

 

[L'attente]

I posted a similar reply on this topic in another thread. Here's my thinking on the issue, as far as I'M concerned. This only applies to me.

I have [firearm] restrictions at my work and I choose to obey their rules because my first concern is about my family, NOT myself. I also enjoy my job. I enjoy what I do and the people I work with and feel that my company treats me fairly and pays me well for a day's work. I work to support my family. I work so that they can have a roof over their heads. I work to keep food in their tummies. I also have a seriously healthy life insurance policy that would provide for them, should I perish. Don't get me wrong, when I am at home or with my family [anywhere outside of work], I will do everything in my power to protect their lives and keep them safe. But I will not sacrifice their long-term security for my immediate safety a few hours of the day, if that makes sense.

I totally understand, my company has a firearm policy and I'd rather not push it. Is keeping it in the car during work (I commute 2.5 hours a day) a good or bad thing while I'm at work?

 

[Paul]

Have you tried carrying an extremely small piece??? My wife has a P3-AT and I can't see any possible reason you couldn't carry that.. the thing literally weighs almost nothing and on a big heavy tool-belt I highly doubt you'd notice any extra weight. The nice thing is that they are also pretty cheap.

I've been tempted to buy one myself and not carry my 9 as much.

A KelTec in a pocket holster can be carried anywhere and in darn near ANY wardrode. It is what I carry when I am wearing shorts that don't accomidate a belt for my IWB holster or if I just plain don't feel like lugging my .45 around.

If it fits in your hand, it will fit in your front pocket without any problem. Bane made an excellent suggestion.

 

[tapehoser]

I totally understand, my company has a firearm policy and I'd rather not push it. Is keeping it in the car during work (I commute 2.5 hours a day) a good or bad thing while I'm at work?

Depends on where you work. My employer even goes so far as to state that firearms are not even allowed on their property, which includes the parking lot. If my employer did not specifically forbid it, I would have no problem keeping a firearm in a locked car all day. You might even consider some type of under-the-seat car safe, if that's what you chose to do.

However, Florida just passed a law that allows ALL people to keep a firearm in their car while they are at work. It's sort of an extension of the Castle Doctrine for your car. And that law applies regardless of your employer's rules about firearms. It will be nice when Utah passes a similar law.

 

[thering]

I work at a private University (just make a guess...) and they have a no firearms policy.
I still haven't decided what my game plan will be when I do get my permit. My current auto is a regular size so concealing it deep will be uncomfortable so I am looking at getting a "tiny" model..
I would mostly be carrying for self defense but I do lean towards the political side... (I open carry on occasion especially because I don't have my permit yet.)