[mattsmith0622]

Moving to Utah here pretty quick, and I'll be looking for a job. Anybody know of any CCW friendly companies up that way?

 

[natehunts]

What part of Utah are you planning on moving to and what king of job? Not that I'd be of much help with that information, but that might help for others who know better than I. But hey, what the boss and co-workers don't know, might only save their lives right :wink:

 

[apollosmith]

Yeah, it's hard to help with that limited info. With the way Utah laws are set up, unless the company has a no-guns policy, then it is naturally gun friendly - meaning you can carry all you want. As mentioned above, it's best not to advertise that you're carrying as new policies have a way of being created overnight - unless of course you are like me and work at a state university, then you know they can't do anything about it (despite their best efforts).

 

[Cinhil]

Young Electric Sign is pro gun & NRA supporters too. Had a friendly chat with them not too long ago.

 

[xmirage2kx]

I would wager to say that 95%+ businesses have a policy against carrying while an employee. However concealed is concealed. There are many who “wont care” as long as it does not become an issue.

 

[Jeff Johnson]

There is a big difference between laws against carrying and a company policy against carrying. In Utah, the places we cannot carry by law are few and specifically enumerated. They do NOT include private companies. At the same time, however, there is no protection in the law from companies making policy against carrying.

The upshot of that is that if you work for a private company in Utah, you can legally carry regardless of company policy, but you can be fired if discovered to be carrying when it violates company policy.

That's when deep concealment comes in handy. 8)

 

[mcosman]

I work for a very pro gun co. We even encourage concealed carry. Of course I own the company and wrote the policy, but that doesn't make a differece does it. OF course I haven't had any Utah clients for about 5 years.

 

[blackpuma]

I work as a contractor, so those pesky "rules of employment" don't apply --- especially since we work off our contracts which stick to the business at hand.

Out of sight, out of mind.

 

[mattsmith0622]

I appreciate the replies. I'm not quite sure where I'll hang my hat once I get there. Trying to decide between Orem and Salt Lake. I lived in the Orem/Provo area for a few years, so maybe I'll shake things up and head up the road a bit. I just don't know if I want Rocky to be my mayor.

Thanks again for the replies.

MS

 

[Tarzan1888]

Try Davis County.

I hear it is a good place to live.

 

[smo]

I just don't know if I want Rocky to be my mayor.

And who could blame you for that! Don't worry though, he won't be mayor much longer. Whoever gets it HAS to be better then Rocky.

PS - Welcome to Utah!

 

[mattsmith0622]

Unless it's Dave Buhler. He stated on the Bob Lonsberry show that he's not a supporter of gun rights (said that it's not his job to make the laws, but does not support right to carry), and [edited by moderator] near called for SLC to be a sanctuary city for illegal aliens. This was on tuesday the 21st that he said all this.

No difference between Rocky and Dave, at least on these issues.

I really wish Lonsberry would run.

 

[smo]

True, you have a point there. I did hear that on Bob's show. I was a little disappointed that Bob didn't give him a harder time about those answers, Bob is usually very vocal about gun rights. Although he did mention after the interview that "they weren't the answers I was looking for".

I still wonder if he can worse then Rocky though...

 

[heavykevy]

If most of the 95% of employers that have policies are anything like mine, the policy is probably not thoroughly thought out. I recently started working for a company who's employee handbook had a clause forbidding "weapons" and citing weapons on company premises as grounds for dismissal. I wasn't necessarily concerned about my safety at work or while commuting, but it was just the nature of a "no weapons" policy that bothered me. Now I happened to work on the administrative side of the company I asked around about how the handbook came to be and it was mostly copied from a Las Vegas-based company in the same industry.

So during a recent update of the handbook (due to some other required changes), I submitted my feelings on the subject and a suggested correction. The owners agreed that the policy should focus on acts of aggression and not objects (because many items on the premises could easily turn into a weapon) and the handbook was changed.

Sorry for the long story, but what I am getting at is be tactful and make use of suggestion boxes or just approach your boss. You may never know if the policy comes from copied big-box company policy with little or no thought behind it. I wouldn't necessarily mention concealed carry unless you are sure your boss is okay with it, but just cite the faulty reasoning behind such clauses. Firearms are only objects like tools, staplers, or chairs; all of which could be a dangerous weapon in the wrong hands.

 

[blackpuma]

If most of the 95% of employers that have policies are anything like mine, ... The owners agreed that the policy should focus on acts of aggression and not objects (because many items on the premises could easily turn into a weapon) and the handbook was changed.

This is an excellent example of intelligent action.

Thanks for sharing the experience!

 

[UTOC-45-44]

The Laws in Utah are Laws and not Policies.

Companies with their POLICIES can only fire you and MAYBE follow it civily.

I'd rather get fired and find a new job that die and not see my wife cuz I "could have" had the shooter.

Better to have it when need it, than to need it and not having it :roll:

Do what YOU feel comfortable with.

BTW the signs in Utah don't carry any weight Criminally, Civilly maybe.

 

[heavykevy]

I personally wasn't worried about being prosecuted, just fired. I knew that no criminal liability was at risk, but I felt better getting it out of the policies.

Too often we let things go because they don't seem too bad or don't personally affect us. Before you know it, these lax ways have created cracks that will suddenly take us all down when the extremists begin to pry on them. Let's all be proactive in keeping our freedoms and liberties and informing those who don't know better or just follow the current "hip" crowd.

BTW - Welcome to the board UTOC-45-44!!