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one other question.

Lets say you get pulled over.....my gut instinct is that unless the officer asks for your ID, and you keep your hand in plain site and don't do anything stupid you keep your mouth shut. If he asks for your ID then yes you give him your license and permit and tell him where your packing.

2nd question

Does anyone know of an archive of "real-life" stories about people using their concealed firearms? Or an archive of "what if" scenarios to help get ones mind working.

I think these up while working the graveyard shift!

-R
 
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I have also wondered if the requirement to disclose when carrying also applies as a passenger. My decision is similar to yours, as a passenger I would just stay put and if I was asked for ID or otherwise questioned, then I would disclose that I have CWP and that I am armed. I don't see any benefit of shouting to the officer that a am carrying when he asks the driver for license and registration.

As far as your second situation, there is a forum here for Real Life Stories. Also, I am a member of the US Concealed Carry Association USCCA and the monthly magazines have stories of real-life self defense that I find informative and great to learn from. There forums are also helpful.

HTH
 
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Unless you are under investigation (aka the cop starts asking you, and not the driver questions) then there is no legal need to disclose your concealed weapon.

And check out the Real Life stories section of this site and/or the guns in the news section.
 
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Well, I personally would be ready to fork over the ccw if asked or questioned. Everytime I have ever been a passenger and had my friend pulled over, the officer has asked for my ID too. Therefore the CCW goes with it. At those times, I was not carrying but I would have if I was. Its really just the point when the officer begins 'official' business with you. However, if the officer asks the driver if their are weapons in the vehicle, I'd think it appropriate to make your move then too. In my mind its better to present if you don't know then to put up with guns drawn and code 3 behavior. Most officers I have met, could care less until they are asking. Although, they all are also happy if that is up front and out of the way at the beginning. I hate the gestapo "let me see your papers" attitude. But, there are times when it may just save some misunderstandings. :)
 
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The driver in a car I was riding in was pulled over and the Officer asked for the driver's license, registration and proof of insurance. The Officer didn't talk to me, so I didn't talk to him. If he wants to see my identification, then he can see it.
 
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The acutal law states that if a police officer had enough to detain you as a suspect in a crime, that is when you are required to inform.

R724-4-13 Requirement to Notify Peace Officer When Stopped.

When a concealed firearm permit holder or certificate of qualification holder is stopped for questioning by a peace officer based on reasonable suspicion in accordance with Section 77-7-15 and the holder has a concealed firearm in his/her possession, the holder shall immediately advise the peace officer that he/she is a lawful holder and has a concealed firearm in his/her possession.

77-7-15. Authority of peace officer to stop and question suspect -- Grounds.
A peace officer may stop any person in a public place when he has a reasonable suspicion to believe he has committed or is in the act of committing or is attempting to commit a public offense and may demand his name, address and an explanation of his actions.
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Mazellan said:
The acutal law states that if a police officer had enough to detain you as a suspect in a crime, that is when you are required to inform.

R724-4-13 Requirement to Notify Peace Officer When Stopped.

When a concealed firearm permit holder or certificate of qualification holder is stopped for questioning by a peace officer based on reasonable suspicion in accordance with Section 77-7-15 and the holder has a concealed firearm in his/her possession, the holder shall immediately advise the peace officer that he/she is a lawful holder and has a concealed firearm in his/her possession.
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I'm not sure what you mean (who you are talking to), but only the driver is suspect of a crime (violation) when speeding or violating a traffic law. I didn't do anything wrong by being the passenger. If the Officer suspects I am doing something illegal, he can tell me, but until then, or until he asks for more information, I stay put and stay quiet.
 
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This sort of touches on a question I had. The law only says that you need to inform the officer if you have you weapon with you. However when I took my CFP class the instructor said that when he gets pulled over he always gives the officer his permit with his license. I believe his reasoning was that when the officer runs your license that it will show up that you are a permit holder and if you didn't notify him in advance some officers may get a little jumpy. What do you all think?
 
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marksman said:
However when I took my CFP class the instructor said that when he gets pulled over he always gives the officer his permit with his license.
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This is what I was told and I think it is good common sense. Anything that helps put the LEO at ease with you is a good thing.

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marksman said:
This sort of touches on a question I had. The law only says that you need to inform the officer if you have you weapon with you. However when I took my CFP class the instructor said that when he gets pulled over he always gives the officer his permit with his license. I believe his reasoning was that when the officer runs your license that it will show up that you are a permit holder and if you didn't notify him in advance some officers may get a little jumpy. What do you all think?
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I would tell him you are a permit holder but don't have a gun on you. No legal requirement but IMO a wise idea.

However, I would never be in that situation because I always carry! :auto:
 
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RobFindlay said:
2nd question

Does anyone know of an archive of "real-life" stories about people using their concealed firearms? Or an archive of "what if" scenarios to help get ones mind working.

I think these up while working the graveyard shift!

-R
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This blog posts self defense stories for the stated purpose of raising awareness of our armed society.
http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefense ... ogger.html
 
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