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Hello all,

Every so often the kind folks at Sprinkler World in Orem (Kelly rocks!) let me use their classroom for a CFP class. We've got a class coming up on July 19 which will start at 9:00am. Details on my course can be found at my newly redesigned Web site at http://www.utahcfp.biz, but the Reader's Digest version is $40 per person, $60 per married couple, fingerprints and photos included. I've been meaning to drag my Web site into the 21st century for a long time, and finally got around to it -- Microsoft's Expression Web design suite actually works pretty well. :wink:

For you folks who are members of http://www.utahconcealedcarry.com, I will pretend I taught your the CFP course you took and extend the half-off discount ($20) to your spouses. I do the discount because I think it is a really good idea for the spouses to have the permit, even if they don't ever intend to carry a firearm.

Prospective students should drop me a note at [email protected]. Those who can't make this class but would like to be kept aware of upcoming slots in classes I teach can sign up to an alerter mailing list by sending a note to [email protected]. You can unsubscribe at any time.

- Dave
 

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UtahCFP said:
I do the discount because I think it is a really good idea for the spouses to have the permit, even if they don't ever intend to carry a firearm.
I think so, too, but I'm having a hard time convincing my wife that it's a good idea. Why do you think it's a good idea? I'm hoping to find some new ideas/arguments that I haven't already been using.
 

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Some reasons why your spouse would benefit from getting the permit:

1 ) They know the same laws you were taught and can help in the straight-as-an-arrow rule following category.

2 ) The obligation to teach children and other occupants in your home about gun safety is better performed by the two of you working in concert.

3 ) There are times where the handling and control of a gun is simplified. For example, let's say you have a firearm in the center console of your car with you and your spouse being the only occupants. Now you pull up to pump gas -- if your spouse has a permit, the gun can stay where it is; if not, the gun has to go with you 'cause you can't transfer control of it to your spouse.

4 ) Skip the $7.00 Brady check (I know, I know... not much of a reason, but it helps a little).

5 ) Learning how to safely load and unload a firearm is a useful skill. I had to "unload" a pistol the other day that was described to me as having a "hair trigger". Turns out it was empty, but you never know.

6 ) It’s actually a lot of fun. It's pretty routine for people to tell me that the course wasn't at all what they were expecting and how pleased they are that they took it. I remember one woman turning to her husband at the end of the course to tell him she had re-thought her position on a number of points was now of the opinion that they should start looking for the right firearm for her.
I sure wish I had a photograph of the look(s) of wonder / shock / confusion / happiness / "alright!!" that crossed his face. :huh: :shock: :raisedbrow: :D :dancing:

7 ) Your spouse may wish to back the concept of the CFP. I like to see the ranks of the law-abiding CFP holders swell so that the miniscule number of mess-ups committed by CFP holders continues to become more and more statistically irrelevant.

8 ) It’s all about having options. Your spouse may intend to never carry a firearm, but if the situation suddenly changes to where he or she really wishes a firearm could be carried, the option is there. I had a student who was in the Triad Center during the 1999 incident (see http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,660195182,00.html). This student didn’t intend to carry a firearm, but realized the option might be something that would be valued in the future. The student described how the guard on duty came into the place where this person and others were hunkered down and asked if he could hide in there with them.

9 ) Your spouse could help you clean your guns after they’ve learned the basics. :dupe:

10 ) Less-than-deadly force is also discussed. If your spouse is leery of carrying a gun, then he or she should think about what other options might be amenable to them.

11 ) Its rather fun to show the permit when asked for an ID. It is a government issued ID and works in those situations. Nearly everyone doesn’t even blink, but once in a while you get a fun reaction. I’ve had a couple of people who came out to a course as a result of the conversation spun up over the ID. AND, I retake the photo if you don’t like it! Try THAT at the DMV. ;)

12 ) The permit seems to make stereotypical liberals uncomfortable. That alone is worth the $85.25 ($20.00 for the course and $65.25 for the application/processing). This effect does appear to be lessening somewhat, which is actually a good thing.

13 ) What’s not to love about getting fingerprinted and photographed? :dunno:

14) I don't really have a 14th reason, but some people don't like lists with 13 items.
 

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Thanks Dave. That's a great list. I'll start working on her and with a little luck enroll her in your class on the 19th. Orem is a long way away, but I have a plan for that: My sister lives in Provo, so I can bill it as a two for one -- we go to the class in the morning, then visit my sister (and her new baby!) in the afternoon.
 
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