Concealed Carry on private property /w Public access

Can they ask you to leave because they noticed your gun? Sure. They can also ask you to leave because they think you're ugly, or because your socks don't match or because they're having a bad day.

Could they make a trespassing charge stick if you refuse to leave? That's not so clear. Utah law says that if the property is open to the public and you aren't interfering with the owner's use of the property, then you have a defense against trespassing charges. This is where a gun may be different from mismatched socks. In the case of a gun,the owner MIGHT be able to argue that it was scaring off his customers and therefore interfering with his business. It's a lame argument, but given the right attorney and the right jury, it might stick.

However, in reality this is a moot point. Nobody but cops and other CC'ers notice printing. The sort of people who are frightened by guns rarely notice them when carried openly; drape a t-shirt over it and they'll never think twice.

IMO, the very best way to get over concerns about printing is to carry openly a few times. Even if you don't want to make that one of your common carry options, seeing what a non-issue OC is really calms down new CC'ers. That's my experience, anyway.

Back in my days(only about a year ago) as a security officer of a local mall we were told by management that no weapons of any kind, legal or illegal, were allowed in the mall. Now I wouldn't say anything to a person carrying concealed, because I didn't care if it was concealed and I didn't check out everyone's hips like I do now. But, if they were openly carrying then I, as a security officer, had to say something to appease management and customers. I would simply say, "Management has asked us not to have weapons of any kind in the building, however you may conceal and if you can't or won't conceal then you must leave it in the car." If they didn't like that then they would simply be asked to leave. I never in the 1 year that I worked there had to ask someone to leave because of a gun, not even a confrontation. Like stated in a previous post, we can ask anyone to leave because we want them to and a trespass will stick in court no matter what. If we wanted a person trespassed no matter what the crime or situation we would simply issue our own trespass and then if they didn't leave or came back then we could arrest on grounds of trespassing and the local PD would come and issue a citation for trespassing. Now, if a person has violated a trespass more than twice, the local PD would issue their city trespass notice for our property. The issue is that the citation might not hold up in court, but the trespass will always stick and you will have problems with local LEO for continuing to trespass. Just because it has public access doesn't mean you have public rights. Private businesses with public access still have their own rules, but they must have someone to enforce it just like a mall security officer. However, mall management didn't want us trespassing people unless a citation was issued by local PD, i.e. retail theft, disorderly conduct, etc. If it is someplace like the mall or a theater and they ask you to leave. I would leave for a couple of hours and come back at a later day and time. They won't remember, but if you make a fuss they will remember and will keep their eye open for you. I would rather conceal and have it with me then to be asked to leave it in the car or not come back. I am the type that 'does' until told not to 'don't.' If you want to OC, OC in businesses that you know won't create problems and trespass you, CC in those places you know will create problems. I personally will CC at the mall I worked at. They will never now even if I am around old coworkers.