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Anyone know whats up with the fighter activity tonight? FLy overs have been happening pretty recently since about 8pm. Coming from the West, banking and heading N towards Hill AFB. Training?
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I heard 'em here in Bountiful as well. Pretty loud! And they sure seemed to be flying low. Hopefully it's just training. I don't mind if it's just once in a while - since I hear the trains every night and morning.
I heard 'em here in Bountiful as well. Pretty loud! And they sure seemed to be flying low. Hopefully it's just training. I don't mind if it's just once in a while - since I hear the trains every night and morning.
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Now see thats what I like about forums. Instant up to date info on whats going on around you. Interesting to hear of so much activity. Nothing going on up here in Logan. Hope there just up for some night drills!!!
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These guys have been doing night drills for the last couple weeks, so nothing new there. What was new last night was a totally different engine noise. If I had to guess, they have some new F-35s they were testing out. These things are VERY loud. I live about 1 mile from the south end of the runway, and I couldn't hear my television from 6ft away when they take off.
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Agreed with the escalated noise level. I thought it was weird they were after burning all the time. Does it have to do with McCain coming in?roseblood said:
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Case closed. Hill AFB commented saying it was a night training. Here I was thinking it was time to get my Zombie Survival kit out..
Case closed. Hill AFB commented saying it was a night training. Here I was thinking it was time to get my Zombie Survival kit out..
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You know what you call that sound that the fighter jets make????
THE SOUND OF FREEDOM!!!!.
Enjoy it everyone, when you are out of the Air Force, you miss that sound and it takes on a whole new meaning.....
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THE SOUND OF FREEDOM!!!!.
Enjoy it everyone, when you are out of the Air Force, you miss that sound and it takes on a whole new meaning.....
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This little story was overly stating the obvious. Of course they are night training. Anyone that lives near HAFB can tell you they have been night training for several weeks, and do at least 3 times a year.NotSoSimple said:
Everyone was all ready to go bust some zombies, but seriously if there is increased activity at HAFB it will not be because of impending attack.
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I was recently at an Air National Guard base for work. We were close enough to the flight line that the take offs and landings were very loud. I joked with one pilot about how loud it was. He replied with the Sound of Freedom thing.Strategic Tactical said:
I responded by saying, "Freedom is LOUD!" :lol2: He got a good laugh out of that.
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What follows is part of a post I made over on opencarry.org. Please don't consider this any sort of personal attack, Chris, but just some food for thought. I say that not because I expect you to take it personally, but I have run into people who have strongly negative reactions to the ideas below. If you disagree, don't get mad, just tell me why you disagree.Strategic Tactical said:
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The sound of high-performance military aircraft is often called "The Sound of Freedom". I cringe every time I hear that phrase. During WWII and especially during the early stages of the Cold War, it was true that military might was important to freedom, because there were other nations who just might invade, replace our government and take our freedom away. At present we face no such risks. Oh, the world isn't a safe place, and we shouldn't dismantle our military forces, but the idea that military power equals freedom just doesn't hold up.
During the last 60 years or so, I think Americans have gotten confused about what freedom really is. We accept greater and greater encroachments on our civil liberties (aka freedom) at the drop of a hat.People are doing drugs? Oh no! Sure, officer, I have nothing to hide, feel free to search me. Sure, no-knock warrants are just fine. If someone breaks into my house and yells "police" I'll just lie spread-eagled on the floor so the police don't feel threatened. Don't be silly, criminals don't yell "police" when they break in. Sure I'll gladly pay extra taxes to fund searches for illicit pot growers. After all, if anyone could grow marijuana, where would the gangs get money?There are terrorists? Of course the government needs to be able to detain people indefinitely in secret locations and torture them to prevent terrorism. No, no, due process doesn't matter if the President says it's not necessary and Habeus Corpus always was a luxury. Of course I agree that if the President thinks things are really bad he needs to have the power to unilaterally declare an emergency, impose martial law, close the courts and suspend elections. Don't be silly, no President would ever abuse the power of his office.Illegal aliens are in the country? Why sure it's reasonable to require employers to check a federal database to determine if someone is allowed to work, that way we can keep illegals from getting jobs. No, I'm sure that system will never make a mistake, or be abused. If you really think national ID cards and internal checkpoints are necessary to find illegals and other undesirables why, that's fine with me. It's a minor inconvenience, just like the airport. Please borrow a little more money from China to spend on building detention facilities all over the country, and refitting railroad cars for prisoner transport.Guns are killing people? Well, of course I agree we need to take them away, at least the dangerous ones, like assault weapons and plastic guns. The idea of a citizen having a machine gun is just ludicrous! Only the military should have those. Don't worry about that second amendment, I don't. Guns that hold a lot of bullets are clearly a bad idea, too -- just how many times do you need to shoot a deer, anyway? I like the idea of microstamping every bullet! Oh, and citizens shouldn't carry guns, only police. And if citizens do carry guns, they should hide them so I don't have to see them. They scare me, and it's more important that I not be uncomfortable than that gun nuts pack their shootin' irons.Does all of this sound like a free country to you? We can go around singing "I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free", sticking magnetic yellow ribons on our trucks and praising our soldiers for keeping us free, but it will do nothing to change the fact that our freedom has been eroding for a long time, at an ever-faster rate.
If we want to be free, we have to defend our rights, and the place to do that is on the streets, by doing what we have a right to do even if it's unpopular, and in the courtrooms, by fighting bad laws and making use of jury nullification, and in the political process, by participating and by protesting.
I love the US Armed forces and I have deep respect for the men and women who put themselves on the line. When I say they don't protect our freedom, it's not because I want to belittle them, it's because I think we are failing them. They're doing their part, but we civilians are largely not doing ours. And they cannot do our job for us.
Too often, Americans pay lip service to freedom, and look at the military as its source. The military is not the source of our freedom, and the "Sound of Freedom" isn't the sound of high-performance jets. The sound of freedom is the loud, messy, disorganized sound of open argument, disagreement and even riducule of government policies and restrictions. The "soldiers" that protect our freedom are the letter-writers, the investigators, the protestors and the lawyers.
The soldiers with guns protect our system of government. It's up to us to make sure that government protects our freedom.
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