[hamm]

I'm curious as to what you all think about automatic weapons. After three gun control acts, automatic weapons have been reduced to a relatively small amount and are very expensive. It makes me wonder...if they were still cheaply available, would many of the crimes we have today be of a more massive scale? Take Trolley Square for instance. If the nut job had had a fully-auto Tommy gun, do you think more people would have died? Although I think the NFA and subsequent acts in '68 and '86 are unconstitutional, has this form of gun control saved lives?

I personally do wish that automatic weapons were easier to come by. Someday when I'm rich , I hope to own a fully auto AK-47. However, I bet they'll be totally banned before that happens.

 

[Kevin Jensen]

I would love to have an electric mini gun chambered in .22lr :twisted: Anything else would cost too much to shoot!

 

[xmirage2kx]

I would love to have an electric mini gun chambered in .22lr :twisted: Anything else would cost too [edited by moderator] much to shoot!

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I think a full auto gun would not cause any more deaths than a semi auto. If you have ever shot something full auto you find you just waste a ton of ammo on non-targeted items. Since you can pull the trigger faster than you can aim it really is a non-issue.

 

[tap-rack-bang]

I think a full auto gun would not cause any more deaths than a semi auto. If you have ever shot something full auto you find you just waste a ton of ammo on non-targeted items. Since you can pull the trigger faster than you can aim it really is a non-issue.

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It takes training to actually get results from a full auto most thugs would spend more time reloading then actually getting hits. The hits that they score from spray and pray are usually less lethal because they are random (case in point - North Hollywood shootout those guys shot full auto for 45 minutes and killed no one.)

 

[69Roadrunner]

I've fired several full auto firearms - courtesy of a good friend who happened to have an extensive collection of firearms. I was able to shoot a 9mm Swedish K, an M-2 carbine, an original 7.62X51 Armalite AR-10, .45 ACP model 1928 Thompson, and a .22lr American Arms 180.

Without a doubt the easiest weapon to control was the Swedish K. Low cyclic rate and easy to shoot single shot by just slapping the trigger. Lowest recoil under full auto was the American Arms 180 - what else would you expect from a .22lr? M-2 and Thompson were somewhat easier to control, but best used with short bursts for maximum accuracy. The worst behaved under full auto was the AR-10 -first round on target, the second over and the third up the hill.

Based on my limited experience, I would say that having a selective fire weapon doesn't automatically translate to more hits on multiple targets. It really takes a well trained shooter to master a selective fire weapon and deliver accurate fire and I don't think many have the time or the ammo ($$$) to practice with them.

 

[tap-rack-bang]

oh and Shall not be infringed is fairly plain english so i would agree that it is unconstitutional

 

[Guest]

I really don't care if it saves lives; also I don't believe it does. There are a billion quotes that address this sort of thing from our founding fathers.

The question at the end of the day: Do you wish to be free, and if so, as what cost?

"Power flows from the barrel of a gun" Mao Tse Tung

As long as men realize that violence is the ultimate form of argument resolution there will be violence. The means to defend ones freedom requires equal force. Mao could have said "freedom flows from the barrel of a gun" but he wasn't in the freedom business was he.

So do you Hamm believe freedom is worth blood? If the answer is yes then I think you understand how I feel on this subject.