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I am sure that most of you are aware of the Crossroads Gun show Apr. 19th and 20th. I am planning on going, but have never been to a show before. I have two main questions about the show since there isn't much explanation on their website.
1. What type of vendors are there? I am looking for a good IWB holster and thought maybe there would be a good place to get one.

2.Since I don't have my CFP yet, do they allow open carry at the show? I didn't know if they have certain regulations or rules. Does the South Town Expo Center have rules against OC or do they have signs posted?

Any info about the show would be great.

This is what I know.
The show is Sat. April 19th 9-5pm, and Sun. April 20th, 9-4pm at the South Town Expo center. You can get a discount coupon for $1 at www.crossroadsgunshows.com. Hope to see some UCC members there.
 

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ndavis2008,

There is a CCW class held during the show, often well attended.

You will find many types of vendors there. There are gun companies, knife salesmen, survival gear companies, including freeze dried foods. There are holster manufacturers and companies. There are also a lot of trinket salesmen taking up space there with all kinds of odd or weird doodads.

You may find what you are looking for while there however, I would suggest checking local gun shops first to see what most are going for, especially those you may have interest in. often your best price may be with them. But you can find deals, or purchase from private individuals who carry their wares with a sign on it. Just talk to them if you like. You may do well. But al least you will be prepared.

You are even welcome to stop by & introduce yourself. I will be selling knives at a table under the name of "The Edge, Knives & Self Defense Products." In fact I welcome all to stop & say hi, whether you buy or not. I have met several members of this forum at gun shows. All have been decent and cordial.

See you at the show, and I hope this helpeed.

ps I will be the large gentleman with a beard and glasses at the table.
 

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In the past, they've always had a "no loaded guns" policy. This is only a "policy" and carries no weight of law, but I think it does make sense and is prudent. With so many guns being handled, it's probably wise to leave the loaded guns in the car. There have been negligent discharges at at least 2 of the last handful of gun shows.

Besides, if someone were to try to rob or shoot up the gun show, I don't think they'd make it very far despite the policy.
 

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My wife and I went to the gun show last year. It was before I had any idea what I was talking about, or what to expect. We had a good time anyway.

As has been stated, there will be a bunch of different vendors, selling things besides guns.

As I remember it, there were LOTS of rifles and long guns there, a LOT of people selling magazines and accessories, and very few hand guns - though lots of handgun related items (magazines, holsters, etc.)

If you read the show information link, there is a list of prohibited items which includes "loaded guns" and "loose rounds of ammunition". You could probably open carry there, but your gun would have to be unloaded. I don't exactly know what they mean by "loose rounds". They could mean literally rounds loose in your pocket, or they could mean anything not packaged (seems like they sold ammo there too, but I'm not sure).

I'll be taking my Beretta M9 and my Kahr MK9, but I'll probably leave the magazines for each in my car. I'm only taking them to make sure any accessory I might be looking at fits (holster, etc).

My wife and I are looking forward to going back this year. We're LOTS more familiar with guns than we were last year and will know what we're looking at.

I'd say definitely educate yourself before you go. I'm sure bargains and rip-offs will both be there - it's up to you to know the difference. :lol:
 

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apollosmith said:
In the past, they've always had a "no loaded guns" policy. This is only a "policy" and carries no weight of law, but I think it does make sense and is prudent. With so many guns being handled, it's probably wise to leave the loaded guns in the car. There have been negligent discharges at at least 2 of the last handful of gun shows.

Besides, if someone were to try to rob or shoot up the gun show, I don't think they'd make it very far despite the policy.
I think the policy is to attempt to prevent stupid people from being STUPID. There are plenty of stupid people at gun shows!!! I personally plan on carrying there. I'm not checking my gun at the door or leaving it in my car, and I am certainly NOT breaking a law by carrying my gun into the show!!! The difference between me and some others is that I NEVER take out my concealed gun to show it off to someone or mess with it. This is why there have been the ND's at the show in the past and why Crossroads has the "No Guns" policy at the shows. People take out their loaded concealed guns at the show and start messing with them and all of a sudden BOOM. STUPID STUPID STUPID. They don't search you at the door or search you as you leave. Just keep your gun concealed and you will be fine.

Anytime I holster or unholster my gun I am on full alert. The only time I do it is at night and in the morning. I don't take it out for any reason. And when I do take it out at night or in the morning I always try to do so when I am 100% focused on what I am doing. The other time is if I am cleaing it or something and then you better believe I am also 100% aware of what I am doing. The ammo comes out and disappears until I am done with my business. Then and only then does it get reloaded and promptly go straight back into my holster. It is just way too easy to get distracted when you are showing your gun or cleaning it, or many other things. This is why most ND's happen in my opinion. People know the gun is loaded they are just distracted for some reason and they pull the trigger. If you take it out to show it to someone or check to see if it fits in a holster or any other reason why someone would be handling or messing with their gun, your brain is not focused on the fact that you are handling a loaded gun and then accidents happen.

I will step off my little soap box now... sorry guys. I guess this its just a big deal to me. I never want to have an ND and we all know guys that have or have heard stories of them. You can't be too cautious. The second that gun come out of the holster for any reason, you better be on high alert and stay on high alert until it is safely back in its proper place.
 

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PW said:
I think the policy is to attempt to prevent stupid people from being STUPID. There are plenty of stupid people at gun shows!!! I personally plan on carrying there. I'm not checking my gun at the door or leaving it in my car, and I am certainly NOT breaking a law by carrying my gun into the show!!! The difference between me and some others is that I NEVER take out my concealed gun to show it off to someone or mess with it. This is why there have been the ND's at the show in the past and why Crossroads has the "No Guns" policy at the shows. People take out their loaded concealed guns at the show and start messing with them and all of a sudden BOOM. STUPID STUPID STUPID. They don't search you at the door or search you as you leave. Just keep your gun concealed and you will be fine.

Anytime I holster or unholster my gun I am on full alert. The only time I do it is at night and in the morning. I don't take it out for any reason. And when I do take it out at night or in the morning I always try to do so when I am 100% focused on what I am doing. The other time is if I am cleaing it or something and then you better believe I am also 100% aware of what I am doing. The ammo comes out and disappears until I am done with my business. Then and only then does it get reloaded and promptly go straight back into my holster. It is just way too easy to get distracted when you are showing your gun or cleaning it, or many other things. This is why most ND's happen in my opinion. People know the gun is loaded they are just distracted for some reason and they pull the trigger. If you take it out to show it to someone or check to see if it fits in a holster or any other reason why someone would be handling or messing with their gun, your brain is not focused on the fact that you are handling a loaded gun and then accidents happen.
Although I have never been to a gun show, :agree: 100%!
 

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Of course when someone open carries they can't have a loaded gun, unless they have a CFP, but there can be a magazine with bullets in the gun. Does bullets in the magazine constitute loose ammo? And like PW said any time that gun leaves the holster, if there is ammo any where near the gun you want to be on high alert. I have always been taught that you should treat a gun as if it were loaded whether or not you know there is no ammo in the gun. I guess that my main thing is I would like to get used to the idea of OC for now as I do not have my CFP yet. I want OC where I would feel more comfortible for now, like a gun show, so I could get used to the idea.
 

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ndavis2008 said:
Of course when someone open carries they can't have a loaded gun, unless they have a CFP, but there can be a magazine with bullets in the gun.
That's the Utah state legislature's rather unique definition of "loaded". The gun shows take a more traditional definition, which says that a gun with an inserted, loaded, magazine is loaded, even if the chamber is empty.

If you're carrying openly, they want to unload the chamber, remove the magazine, lock the slide back and insert a zip tie through the magazine well and chamber. You can keep your loaded magazine with you.

That means that if you carry a knife or something to cut the zip tie, you can be ready to shoot fairly quickly, if you need to. Cut the tie, insert the magazine, hit the slide release and pull the trigger. If you're really worried, you could pre-cut the zip tie but leave it in place so that you can just yank on it, insert the mag and hit the release.
 
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I will be at the show in ACUs at the USAR display all are welcome to say hi to me as well.

P.S. unless an LTC stops by I will likely be the only one with gray hair.

EDIT: Saturday only
 

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hedonistic said:
I will be at the show in ACUs at the USAR display all are welcome to say hi to me as well.

P.S. unless an LTC stops by I will likely be the only one with gray hair.

EDIT: Saturday only
Please forgive my ignorance but what does "ACUs" stand for? Is USAR U.S. Army Reserve? And what about LTC?

I plan on being there on Saturday morning. I need ammo and another gun. :drool:

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ACU=Army combat uniform
LTC= Lieutenant Colonel

Sorry, I am still a bit of a mivilan and tend to forget not every one knows that language.
 

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ian husford said:
Please forgive my ignorance but what does "ACUs" stand for? Is USAR U.S. Army Reserve? And what about LTC?

I plan on being there on Saturday morning. I need ammo and another gun. :drool:

ian
Army Combat Uniform.
Yes.
Lieutenant Colonel.

Me too. :D
 

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hedonistic said:
P.S. unless an LTC stops by I will likely be the only one with gray hair.

EDIT: Saturday only
The only person I saw there with any hair was female... :)
 

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The only person I saw there with any hair was female... :)
You must have missed him. He took off with his dad and snooped around the show :)

Met up with Sheepdog and his brother in line, then walked around a bit with them - great guys. Glad to see Hedonistic at the show along with Joe (Smitty) and all the boys from FBMG. Unfortunately I couldn't find Cinhil and his Edge Knives booth - looked and looked - then I asked around and asked around... oh well, maybe next time (which isn't until Sept!!!).

Picked up a copy of Larry Correia's Monster Hunter International, looking forward to a good read!
 
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I was there ask FBMG Smitty and Genetics Dave.
Sorry, I missed you I was the only NCO not wearing a recruiters badge.
 

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I went, but the only person I managed to find was FMBG Smithy. I wandered by the Army Reserve recruiting table, but didn't see any gray hair. Ah, well, it was nice to put one face with a name.
 
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Either I am not as gray as I thought or both of you are not very observant?
Perhaps I implied I was more than a little salt and pepper at the temples. Well Swilden and Ruger collector next time in sept I will not wear any uniform (I will have left the Army) and perhaps a Bozo wig or an iron on HEDONISTIC :nilly: Yes the crazy guy "T"shirt
 

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Well, I am at the Gun Show & Ruger Collector stopped by & said hi. I saw a person with a FBMG (hope I got that right?) t-shirt, but didn't get to say hello. As for Hedonistic, I may, or may not have met him? I did meet a Army representative at my table, with whom I was able to throw some banter and quips, and then again at his booth. This person had lots of grey hair. Was this you Hedonistic? If so, it was a pleasure.
Maybe I will see more of you Sunday.
If my wife is right, there won't be another Gun Show until September, then again in November. You all may want to keep this in mind.
Also, I do have that "C" Clamp Hornaday Reloader at the show with me if anyone is interested. $100 for a brand new, never used reloader is good, I think. Anyway, stop by, say hi & maybe have a look.
 
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