[Cinhil]

Here they go again...the U of U is objecting to open carry, a lawful right, and saying that CCW carriers cannot do anything they want. I read the Utah Daily Chronicle & was a bit upset with what I read there. Evidently, even if a "gun" or weapon carried by a CCW holder is inadvertently seen or becomes visible, the U of U threatens to expel the student involved.
At work at present, will try and submit more later. In the meantime you could look up the Chronicle on line. There is a disgusting editorial in this issue as well, which essentially states that rights are "smal thing" and we shouldn't be trifling with them.
I will post more this evening if able as I am having some issues with my home computer. But AI shall post more. :twisted: :evil:

 

[tapehoser]

Web site's down right now:

http://www.dailyutahchronicle.com

MAYBE SOMEBODY HACKED IT!!!

 

[GeneticsDave]

The article about Thomas McCrory, a senior business major at the U who has been confined to a wheelchair due to a skiing accident, can be found here.

It's sad that people feel the need to enforce a non-existent gun law up on campus. The whole idea of "if the law doesn't say you can, you can't" is the kind of liberal garbage that makes me dry heave. Laws prohibit or regulate actions. If the law does not stipulate that something it illegal or regulated, it's just that, not illegal or regulated. Open carry is not illegal, but it is regulated, and people who know the regulations should be the ones enforcing them, not a handful of misinformed campus staff and security. It makes me wonder if there was some memo sent out that misinformed them.

Anyways, John Morris, general counsel for the U, needs to go back to law school and learn more about what it really means to interpret law - he obviously doesn't understand that laws prohibit behavior.

 

[GeneticsDave]

Here's another article entitled, Gun advocates seek open-carry policy.

I haven't seen that negative opinion column previously mentioned, and these two seem fairly unbiased - I didn't pick up any overtones on these ones.

 

[GeneticsDave]

OK, here we go, here's that opinion article Cinhil was talking about, I didn't recognize it at first due to its title, "Chronicle's view: Let sleeping dogs lie". I hate that they use the title "Chronicle's view", that would piss me off if I worked there and didn't agree. I used to work at another Utah university newspaper and we never made anything look like it was the view of the newspaper, just the view of a specific person - and we always put their name on it - none of this nameless, shameless tripe was published on my watch. Ugh.... sickening.

 

[bane]

Here are the comments I made to the article... unfortunately I made a typo without realizing it so it reads funny in the original (I've edited it here):

I find it absolutely disgraceful that the U, an institution among institutions who have historically challenged institutional authority [over] individual Rights, is calling an individual's Right to Life (not to mention Liberty) a "small thing" and is promoting the concept of bowing to authority simply for authority's sake.

Moments such as this make me feel a bit embarrassed to admit that I am a U student. All I can say is that I will spend the rest of my life and a portion of the extra money I earn from the degree I obtain from the U to contribute to any fight against them them on these types of issues.

So much for an institution of "higher learning".

 

[apollosmith]

Interesting. 3 articles in 2 days - all of which say pretty much something different and contradict each other (even the ones written by the same person!).

Tenney also said his group might want to hold an open carry rally on the anniversary of the supreme court decision that overturned the U's previous gun ban.

When is this? If they do this, we should join them. Perhaps make it our monthly get together. Thoughts?

And here's the quote of the month:

Curt Oda, R-Clearfield, said that although nothing has been planned, there is potential for the Legislature to take action. He said the U is clearly violating the law.

"I don't care where they stand on it...I'm tired of playing with them," said Oda, who has a strong record as a gun-rights advocate. "What (their interpretation) tells me is that they don't know the English language..."

Followed closely by:

"The University of Utah and their security task force is creating panic and fear in a place that there was none before," Aposhian said. "They have hyped up the students and the staff and faculty into having such a knee-jerk, hysterical response to the mere mention of the word 'gun,' let alone the sight of a firearm, that I have no doubt that it is very likely that if someone open carried, it's going to cause somebody to wet their pants."

Clark, you're my hero!

 

[Cinhil]

Thanks Genetics , Bane & Apollo, my home computer is down so I was unable to post more. I had highlighted the same items as have been pasted here to comment on, but you have all caught them.
I get pretty tired of the efforts I see by the idiots who are teaching our children to eliminate inherent & God-given Rights, as well as abusing and destroying our Constitution. I guess it is no wonder I espoused a feeling yesterday of contempt and anger. Rights are things which are intangible, but they belong to us all. To destroy them destroys the society we have created, or which our forefathers created for us. Rights are not trivial to be thrown away and abused with wild abandon and that seems to be the opinion of the U of U. It is disgusting!