I agree with you Tom. These are rights we are talking about. In that breath if they can't pass a Vermont or Alaska style carry law then they should at least do away with the "Permit" and make it a license. After all Permit has negative connotations to me. It means that the big brother is simply giving you permission to do something which they can strip that permission at their whim. I don't like it on bit. No more making concessions its time for law abiding firearms owners to stand up and demand their constitutional rights.