I found this site by wandering around packing.org. I live Utah county. Born and raised here accually. As a youngster we sighted in our deer rifles in the back yard, with no fear of harming a soul. It's not that way anymore. I'm married with four grown children, and still have 15 years till retirement. I have shot guns all my life. I was even a cop for a few years when I was a young man. I now carry a sig P239 9mm. I shot 9mm on the force and can still shoot well with it. It has low recoil and still packs a punch. I hope this finds you all well and I hope you all have a happy new year.