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I'm interested in getting a paddle holster. Does anyone here have experience with the Fobus brand? They seem affordable, but how's the quality? Thanks in advance.

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There are a lot of manufacturers out there who make Kydex holsters and gear. Fobus is one of the best known, making accessories for many firearms.

When I first became interested in firearms, a Fobus holster was on the top of my list. Unfortunately, they didn't make one that fit my gun, so I was forced to look elsewhere. As time drew on and I bought additional firearms, I found a firearm that I wanted to carry everyday. This firearm came with a Fobus holster. I used it and it worked out alright, but it wasn't all I hoped for.

I started talking to different people at gun stores and firearms training specialists. The biggest critique of Fobus from my many encounters was that the plastic was too soft. Half of the people I had talked to had heard of Fobus holsters being torn off the paddles or belt loops with a sharp and fast circular twisting. Of those I spoke with, two had the actual holsters in their stores and showed me - a strong point to consider something else.

Of all the holsters I have tried on and researched, my personal favorite and currently used holster is the BlackHawk SERPA line, specifically the BlackHawk CQC SERPA Holster - Active Retention - Carbon Fiber Finish. I like this holster line because they reinforce their kydex holsters with carbon fiber (all of them, not just the carbon fiber finished ones), adding immense strength. I also like that the holsters come with a highly configurable paddle and belt loop attachment. And, if you choose to go tactical later on, you can buy the leg holster add-on for your existing holster - very cool (for example: Sgt. Jensen has a leg holster and he's cool).

The price is not bad - you're looking at around $50 for the holster, and they have matching mag and light holsters in an array of colors.

Anyways, I hope my input has been helpful, I love my holster and will never again use a Fobus.
 

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And for you Fobus lovers and possible naysayers, here's the proof.

Here's a little more info on the Level 2 BlackHawk.

While the SERPA holster is not indestructible, it is much stronger than the Fobus I own and I trust it to hold my firearm - it's already super difficult to get it off my pants when they go into the wash :)
 

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I saw an email that was sent throughout my department about Blackhawk doing a recall on Serpa Holsters. I didn't pay much attention to it because I don't have a Serpa. Check with Blackhawk if you have a Serpa holster, they should be able to give you more information. It had something to do with the button you press to release the gun.

I've also heard a lot of bad about Fobus Holsters and the video shows a lot of what I've heard. If you spend several hundred dollars on a handgun, then get a quality holster. If you like leater there are several quality ones out there. If you like Kydex I personally recommend Bladetech or Raven Holsters. Of the two I like I Raven better, but you can't go wrong with either. There links are below.

http://www.blade-tech.com/home.php

http://ravenconcealment.com/
 

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I had a Fobus paddle for my Glock, it felt really comfortable but I didn't like the marks it was leaving on the trigger guard from drawing and re-holstering and when I wore it in the desert rabbit hunting it seemed to attract a lot of dust. I really like the PaddleLok by Bianchi, it's comfortable, it's leather, it looks a heck of a lot better, and it works. Maybe they make one for your gun in particular. http://www.bianchi-intl.com/product/Prod.php?TxtModelID=83
 

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Fobus is good for the $25 you buy it for. No doubt that if you spend $50-$150 on a holster it will be better than a $25 holster. I like the safariland or the Serpa for this type of holster. That being said, for the money the fobus is really a good holster. Having done my own personal tests on the fobus I have found the youtube video to be misleading, I was able to break one (was given one that didnt quite fit my gun, so I thought I would do my own test) but it took repeated attempts and a lot of twisting. It would have been much easier to simply remove the gun from the holster than break it off. [/quote]
 

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GeneticsDave said:
Here's a little more info on the Level 2 BlackHawk.
The video isn't clear on what the second retention mechanism is. Can anyone explain it? I'm still looking for a good holster for open carry, and good retention is a key consideration.
 

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My Battalion issued Blackhawk Serpa thigh rigs to all pistol-carriers, they are way nice. That, combined with a Massad Ayoob endorsement on Personal Defense TV, makes me want one for my XD!
 

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swillden said:
The video isn't clear on what the second retention mechanism is. Can anyone explain it? I'm still looking for a good holster for open carry, and good retention is a key consideration.
Level 1 Retention: the pressure that is exerted on the frame of the gun thus keeping it in the holster (strong enough to hold the weapon upside down but not necessarily if shaken). Per BlackHawk: a tension-adjustable passive retention system that allows you to select the amount of retention on you gun. Our system uses a screw-adjustable detent that grabs the trigger guard of your pistol.


Level 2 Retention: the weapon is drawn after the trigger finger pushes the SERPA release. If you try (or a bad guy tries) to pull the gun out before activating the SERPA release then the release mechanism itself is locked. Basically it is a mechanism that holds onto the front of your trigger guard. When the SERPA release is engaged by your finger, the trigger guard is allowed to move away from the mechanism.


Level 3 Retention: three different and independent retention devices built into the holster. In this case the three retention devices are: 1) tension. Adjust it with any philip's head screwdriver. 2) The SERPA lock which secures the trigger guard of the weapon until activated / released by the shooter during the draw stroke. 3) What BlackHawk calls a "Pivot Guard" which is a spring-loaded chunk of polymer which pivots up and over the back of the weapon slide and, again, is released / activated during the natural draw stroke. This holster was specifically designed for Law Enforcement for ultimate retention.



A level 1, or tension only, is a good entry level holster for consumers and would work very well as a concealed or inside the waistband holster. If you are thinking of wearing on the belt or open carry, a SERPA level 2 would probably be better to avoid the simple snatch and grab. Level 2 systems are used by the military. If you are planning on being in the rough and tumble with bad guys (Law Enforcement), I would probably go with a level 3.

BlackHawk also makes leather (great material and very customizable) and nylon (recommended for covert missions and range use only - IMO) holsters. But, if you are looking at leather, there are so many options out there from major companies like Bianchi all the way down to the guy who makes them out of his garage - and you can get some pretty funky leathers too (Sharkskin, Iguana, etc).

If you have any other questions, please ask.
 

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GeneticsDave said:
Sgt. Jensen has a leg holster and he's cool).
Yeah, I guess I am pretty cool! :D Here is my holster in case you want to see it.


swillden said:
The video isn't clear on what the second retention mechanism is. Can anyone explain it? I'm still looking for a good holster for open carry, and good retention is a key consideration.
The adjustable retention screw located beneath the auto lock is the second form of retention. The tighter you screw it down, the tighter the holster is on the weapon.
 

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SGT Jensen said:
The adjustable retention screw located beneath the auto lock is the second form of retention. The tighter you screw it down, the tighter the holster is on the weapon.
Hmm. Having it tight wouldn't stop anyone from drawing it (assuming they knew to hit the index finger release), so I guess the idea is just to make sure that they have to yank on your holster hard enough that you'll notice?

BTW, who has the nice camera and lens? According to the popup EXIF info it's a 30D with an f/2.8 24mm lens. Nice composition, too, and perfect choice for DOF. Someone knows how to take pictures.
 

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swillden said:
SGT Jensen said:
The adjustable retention screw located beneath the auto lock is the second form of retention. The tighter you screw it down, the tighter the holster is on the weapon.
Hmm. Having it tight wouldn't stop anyone from drawing it (assuming they knew to hit the index finger release), so I guess the idea is just to make sure that they have to yank on your holster hard enough that you'll notice?

BTW, who has the nice camera and lens? According to the popup EXIF info it's a 30D with an f/2.8 24mm lens. Nice composition, too, and perfect choice for DOF. Someone knows how to take pictures.
It was professional picture, from the first Open carry dinner.

It is really hard to push the button from anywhere but a natural draw position. If you are aware of who is around you no one would be getting close enough to sneak your gun away, and for someone to push the button and pull it out during a struggle would be very unlikely
 

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Thanks a bunch for the information. I just ordered a carbon fiber SERPA. $34.99 from tactical-store.com (free shipping). I've been OC'ing with a Blackhawk nylon holster with just a thumb brake, but I've been a little uncomfortable with that. I think I'll like the SERPA.

Thanks again.
 
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