[Paul]

A similar law was being considered in Utah within the past few months. Didn't make it into law, but at sometime I'm sure it will.

Remember this doesn't give you the right to carry anywhere as you kind of suggested in your statement. This law only allows you to lock and leave a gun in your personal vehicle while on company property. If you bring a gun into company buildings, you may still be disciplined (fired) if it is against company policy. You can't be fired for leaving your gun in your vehicle though.

 

[Paul]

Because I often give coworkers rides to lunch or whatever. There is a chance they might see it at some point and cause trouble. It's just not worth the risks IMO.

You are, of course, the one that has to make that call.

I look at it the same way I look at carrying concealed into Trolley Square or other posted areas. As long as you keep it concealed and nobody knows, there won't be any problem.

It would be nice if Utah passes a law similar to Florida's though.

Not the same. Trolley Square and other posted areas, you simply get kicked out of the area / store.
Violate a company policy and you may lose your job.

You know your employer better than we do.

 

[Paul]

There was a thread a while back similar to this. Here is some language I wrote into my company handbook, actually I just modified and inserted a few words and added a few items.

"Disorderly conduct on Company premises, including fighting or attempted bodily injury, or the use of profane, abusive, or threatening language toward others, or unauthorized possession of a weapon; Employees with a concealed firearm permit must request and receive written permission from the Company President to carry a concealed weapon on Company premises."

This is the only specific reference to a CFP in my handbook. I also have in my handbook a policy that I can search employees personal property including vehicles. However in 10 years I have never personally excersiced this option or seen previous owners or management do this either. As the owner though, I will NEVER remove this policy (searching personal property) from my handbook. I hope to never have to do it, but if I have reason to need to do it, you can bet I will.

It is really about knowing your employer and where they stand. You should be able to sense the overall attitude of an employer towards their employees. Employers that respect their employees treat then well. Employers that don't respect and trust their employees, well thats a different story. Guns are just one indicator of an overall attitude.

 

[Paul]

As the owner though, I will NEVER remove this policy (searching personal property) from my handbook. I hope to never have to do it, but if I have reason to need to do it, you can bet I will.

Keeping in mind that if the employee refuses the search, you can't force the issue. You can fire the employee, and in any dispute over the termination can point to the policy to justify your action, but you don't actually have any authority to search the employee's personal items over the employee's objections.

What's your rationale for requiring written permission to legally CC?

To your first statement, Yup!

To your second question:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1694&st=0&sk=t&sd=a
I discussed this at lenght in this thread. Its a great thread and review for anyone that missed it the first time. Basically follow the same line as the thread we are in. If you want to know my feelings and rationale, read this thread as I have a bunch of posts in it and hate to retype the same stuff.