[carbuff19]

Here is my company policy:

Physical actions, written or verbal communications or behavior of an intimidating, harassing, threatening or destructive nature in the workplace are prohibited. Possession of weapons, explosives, or other objects, that are intended to inflict bodily harm, is prohibited on company premises and while engaged in company business.

How do you think I could possibly bring up that with their policy could be endangering my life? With the company banning weapons on their property has essentially made it so I travel to and from home unarmed and could possibly sue them if something happened and I could of prevented it if I was armed. But due to their ban; I have to leave my weapon at home.

I know there is a bill the legislature is trying to pass overriding companies policy so individuals could have a weapon locked in their vehicle.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Josh

 

[Paul]

Good question. I guess I would ask first how you think your boss / owner will respond? Do you work for a big company where you are just a number or a small company where your voice matters?

I think you may be able to argue that your firearm is not "INTENDED" to inflict bodily harm. You bring it to work intending to only use it in the instance that you may need to defend or protect yourself. You could ask how the policy addresses law enforcement officers and legal CWP holders. I think it really starts with how comfortable you are talking to someone that will understand and listen to you. I guess you could start by telling them you are a legal CWP holder and do NOT currently carry at work because of the policy, but you are concerned about not being able to carry. And then see where the discussion goes. You could also figure the concealed is concealed and don't ask don't tell policy. Then if ever made simply state you felt you complied with the policy because you don't bring the firearm there INTENDING to inflict bodily harm.

 

[Yoda]

Be careful of how you approach your employere. I have a similar situation where i work i asked if they would change the rules if we have a concealed carry permit. they only tightened the rules and now it is a imediate termination if caught with any weapon. which doesnt make sense because we have to use knives all the time.

 

[doconix]

I can't carry at work either, and I will not be bringing up the subject anytime soon because I know how it would be received. Perhaps some day. Having said that, I would approach them with the question of how they are protecting you right now.

For example, if someone came into work and started shooting up the place, what is your business doing to prevent the act and/or protect you? If they say the policy prevents it, ask again what would physically stop someone from coming onto the workplace and shooting people.

I haven't had much luck with anti's with this logic, but for those in the middle who haven't formed an opinion, it makes them think. Unless your business is willing to provide airport-type security, they are NOT doing anything to prevent the scenario.

 

[divegeek]

Unless your business is willing to provide airport-type security, they are NOT doing anything to prevent the scenario.

This is why I think we need to support legislation (been introduced in a few states, hasn't passed anywhere) that makes establishers of gun-free zones liable for damages that may have been preventable if the people present were armed. I think it's reasonable for places that do REALLY try to make it safe (metal detectors, armed security, etc.) to get a pass, but I think most businesses and retailers would quickly decide that it's a lot cheaper to allow individuals to defend themselves.

 

[Mazellan]

I agree with the "intent" statement. The reason I carry every day is for protection. I don't carry with the "intent" to harm someone. One could make a legal argument in court if you had to. (Not a lawyer)

 

[roseblood]

I get a good laugh when I see company policies that are written by HR people without having it passed by a lawyer. Certainly a competent lawyer would have caught this if he was looking closely at this section.

I am sure when company said "are intended" it meant "may be used"

 

[hamm]

Don't even bring up the issue. Just carry concealed. Better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission.

 

[rufus]

My expericence has been it's best to find out the true position of the company on the issue. My present employer has a "don't ask, don't tell" position for guns in your locked car and has asked not to pack inside the buildings. On occasions though, I have. Just do it correctly and no one will be the wiser. Got busted once, by inadvertant contact with a co-worker, but she later confessed that knowing someone was armed made her feel better.

 

[divegeek]

Got busted once, by inadvertant contact with a co-worker

Were you SmartCarrying?

 

[Paul]

Got busted once, by inadvertant contact with a co-worker

Were you SmartCarrying?

:ROFL: :ROFL: If he was it wouldn't have been inadvertant now would it.... :nilly:

 

[Cinhil]

Yoda said:

Be careful of how you approach your employere. I have a similar situation where i work i asked if they would change the rules if we have a concealed carry permit. they only tightened the rules and now it is a imediate termination if caught with any weapon. which doesnt make sense because we have to use knives all the time.

I would wonder if you refused to use the "tools" of your job what they would say? Then you could use the company policy to totally disarm them. :lol:
Really though, it could be a great object lesson into the asininity of their rule.
Maybe you could then get a better overall response from the company. I mean really, how many men don't carry at least a pocket knife, or women too for that matter? Some employers are just plain insane. :nilly:

 

[GeneticsDave]

Got busted once, by inadvertant contact with a co-worker

Were you SmartCarrying?

:ROFL: :ROFL: If he was it wouldn't have been inadvertant now would it.... :nilly:

Inadvertent contact?!?! :shock: Um.... You have to explain that, I'm having a really hard time visualizing it :lolbang:

 

[rufus]

This lady is not the most graceful person on earth, cute as can be, but clumsy. She says she trips over fly doo doo. Walking down a hall, she tripped, reached to catch herself, and grabbed a Smith 40. (now all you with dirty minds, THAT would have been a 22 short).

 

[coprtoppe]

Don't even bring up the issue. Just carry concealed. Better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission.

+1
and don't discuss with even your most trusted co-workers unless you can live with the consequences of being found out.

Tony

 

[Guest]

Don't even bring up the issue. Just carry concealed. Better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission.

+ a zillion

The one time I got found out the co worker knew my history and I had stood between her and a crack head customer. She pushed a cart into my weapon and snagged the cart on it.