[rdoggsilva]

Took the wife to the IHC instacare on 9th E at 21st S. Has we were go in the door I noticed it said No Weapons Allowed. I was caring concealed and went in anyway. No one noticed are ask and I did not tell. Just thought you would like to know.

 

[hamm]

Yeah, they have the "no guns" signs at LDS Hospital and Primary Children's Hospital as well. My favorite is at Primary's where it says, "You are entering a place of healing, no weapons please." Interestingly, the new Intermountain Medical Center that IHC just built doesn't have any "no guns" signs. I think the "no guns" sign fad is out for now.

 

[Jeff Johnson]

You were perfectly legal to carry there.
This is a case where concealed was probably less controversial.

 

[bane]

hahaha... "this is a place of healing, no guns allowed"... which is ironic since, I'm sure, they have armed security on the premises!

 

[mom of 3 angels]

Had the same problem taking my daughter to Primary Children's on Monday. Got to the door before I knew they had "the sign" and no way was going back to my car (we were barely on time for our appointment as it was) so carried to her appointments, even talked with the yes, armed, security guard lady a couple of times to get directions/information. I guess they could have asked me to leave if anyone found out I was carrying, but didn't have any issues.

 

[Mazellan]

I would love to boycott IHC and their facilities but unfortunately they own 95% of the medical facilities. My reason for boycott goes beyond there "unarmed victim zones," but that would be OT. I for one will keep on packing until caught and asked to leave.

 

[Paul]

Nobody is going to catch you carrying concealed unless you do something stupid. I look back in my life (pre-carry) and I have never once had anybody stop me and search me or ask what is in my pocket or anything similar ever. Noone has ever asked me if I have any weapons on me. I can't think of any instance ever where if I had been carrying I would have been caught. It just isn't that big of a deal. Keep it concealed and go anywhere you want EXCEPT legally defined restricted areas....(airports, courthouses, jails,...we all know these places). Most people aren't looking at other people trying to find guns. The only exception to this is guys like us that are trying to see if they can find someone else that is carrying.

Even the cops aren't really paying attention. Within the last week I have had encounters with LEO's twice. My business and the business across the street have had some neighbor kids getting into cars and stealing loose change and cigarettes, etc. I visited with 2 different Deputy's in both my place of business and my neighbors place of business on 2 different occasions. Since I wasn't being detained for reasonable suspicion of anything, I was not legally required to tell them I was carrying and I didn't tell them. They didn't notcie I was carrying. The cops don't pay enough attention to "make" a concealed carry. Heck, I can't even make another CFP holder carrying and I have tried. Everywhere I went for a few months I tried like crazy to find someone else that was carrying, and I couldn't. Now I don't really pay that much attention.

 

[heavykevy]

I have carried concealed at our local IHC hospital several times with no issues. A while back I had noticed the no weapons sign at the front door, but on my most recent visit in the last month, I could not see that sign any more. My wife is always telling me that I can't find things that are in plain view, so the sign may still be there and I just missed it, but hopefully it is not.

However, we had to take one of our children to the ER a few months back and there was still a sign by the ER admittance area about a place of healing, no weapons, blah, blah, but I know the law and I was not deterred. I have never seen any security personnel and I don't know if there are any here, but do worry about some whacked-out druggie coming in to a hospital so I will carry and protect my family regardless of any signs.

 

[hamm]

The only time I won't carry in a hospital is if I am a patient. Can you imaging being in a gown with your smart carry on? :ROFL:

 

[rdoggsilva]

Hamm that I would love to see that :ROFL: :lolbang:

 

[Jeff Johnson]

The only time I won't carry in a hospital is if I am a patient. Can you imaging being in a gown with your smart carry on? :ROFL:

Hmmm, you could wear it backwards so that the pocket portion (and gun) cover your behind, which those gowns seem designed to expose. :lol3: Make for a tricky draw, though.

When I'm in a gown at such a place, I'm quite possibly going to be under the influence of anesthesia or something. That'd be a problem. :shocked:

 

[xmirage2kx]

The only time I won't carry in a hospital is if I am a patient. Can you imaging being in a gown with your smart carry on? :ROFL:

Hmmm, you could wear it backwards so that the pocket portion (and gun) cover your behind, which those gowns seem designed to expose. :lol3: Make for a tricky draw, though.

When I'm in a gown at such a place, I'm quite possibly going to be under the influence of anesthesia or something. That'd be a problem. :shocked:

I had to go to urgent care this last week. I get into the office and was asked to remove my shirt, I thought the DR and Nurse were gonna be the ones in need of medical care :jawdrop:

Anyways after that all went well enough.

 

[Car Knocker]

One of the advantages of pocket carry in these types of situations.

 

[Jeff Johnson]

I had to go to urgent care this last week. I get into the office and was asked to remove my shirt, I thought the DR and Nurse were gonna be the ones in need of medical care :jawdrop:

Anyways after that all went well enough.

So what, particularly, did they say or do?

 

[xmirage2kx]

So what, particularly, did they say or do?

The nurse practically fell over as she backed away in a panic like state :nilly: and the DR (also a girl) let out a gasp as she did a quick double take :shocked: . The DR then asked if I worked in law enforcement, and I said no. She then asked if I would "kindly remove [my] weapon and place it with my shirt on the chair next to [me]" (which I did). Then during the exam the nurse asked if it was real :roll:, and then asked if it was loaded :roll:

By the end of the exam the nurse had calmed down and the DR apologized for both their responses and said they are used to surprises when patients lift their shirts, but not ones like that.

 

[bane]

CRAZY!!!

Yeah, I have to do some form of pocket-carry 3x a week b/c I go to the Chiro that often (just another month or so, though!) Most of the time I go to the bathroom upon arriving and stuff my gun in my backpack and on leaving I go to the bathroom again. Sometimes, if I'm heading home, I just remove my gun in my car and shove it under my front seat.

I'd rather not do these things but I know even if the Dr. felt it and was comfortable with there is good chance it would expose at some point during treatment and another patient would see it and then my Dr. might not be so kewl about it....

 

[6av457]

I went to the Jordan Valley Hospital A couple of months ago IN UNIFORM due to an on duty injury{dislocated ribs} and I thought the Doctor was going to have a fit . The nurse asked if there was any way I could secure my weapon in my crusier. I ended up having my Sergeant stay in the room with my gear.

 

[Car Knocker]

I went to the Jordan Valley Hospital A couple of months ago IN UNIFORM due to an on duty injury{dislocated ribs} and I thought the Doctor was going to have a fit .

I think I would have written a letter to the hospital administration about this hypocritical behavior by the doctor. I say "hypocritical" because if the doctor had an out-of-control patient, the first thing he would do is call someone who carries a gun to deal with the problem!

 

[bane]

I agree. Where is the rationality of being "scared" of someone in uniform just because they are in your office as a patient rather than as a public servant???

 

[GeneticsDave]

Well, it's pretty obvious. People fear what they do not understand. This is where public education (broadcast and in person) can do us much good. If we take the time to rationally explain our actions to those who are afraid, they are more likely to come to an understanding of our actions. After this understanding and building of trust, the fear will dissipate and interest will begin to surface. We can be great educators, but it is up to us to be wise and prudent with our words and actions. [/wisdom]