I do not believe you have to be a Scouter (a Scouter is the proper term for adult members) to attend this classes. Contact your local BSA Council. Rules vary usually.marksman said:I have a few questions. Do you have to be a scout our scout leader to have access to those classes? How long is a certification considered current? must you retake the class when you want to recertify?
Great info, but doesn't the "don't do this" method of teaching go contrary to the proper NRA teaching philosophy of not demonstrating the "wrong" way? JMHOUtahCFP said:First thing is to become an NRA Basic Pistol instructor (or P.O.S.T. instructor). See http://www.nrahq.org/education/training/instructor.asp for instructions on becoming an NRA instructor.
Next, you go to http://www.bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFPHome.html and get the application at http://www.bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFinstructor.pdf. You will need to give a summary of your qualifications and past experience as a firearms instructor. Cost is $50 to apply, and you must attend a BCI instructor certification course which costs $25. The BCI course must be taken every three years (see http://www.bci.utah.gov/CFP/InstructorNewsletters/200705_Instructor_Newsletter.pdf). You will need to submit a course outline, but the basic outline is provided by BCI.
It is also handy to become proficient at taking fingerprints. There is some good material on taking fingerprints at the BCI Web site (http://www.bci.utah.gov/CFP/Fingerprint_Handout.pdf), and the FBI has some good stuff as well (http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/takingfps.html). A good company for fingerprinting materials is Sirchie -- http://www.sirchie.com/FingerprintTaking_Contents.aspx.
Make sure you get a "red gun" (e.g., http://www.copquest.com/21-2100.htm) for use in your class to show the "don't do this" stuff.
Maybe it is just me but I do not do fingerprints it is to big of a pain. If you send your students to a local sheriffs office or to BCI if they live near there is almost no chance of the fingerprints being rejected. If you do them with ink there is a higher probability of error and return by the FBI. This would make me a little upset if I was waiting for my permit and instead I get a letter saying go do your prints again.UtahCFP said:It is also handy to become proficient at taking fingerprints. There is some good material on taking fingerprints at the BCI Web site (http://www.bci.utah.gov/CFP/Fingerprint_Handout.pdf), and the FBI has some good stuff as well (http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/takingfps.html). A good company for fingerprinting materials is Sirchie -- http://www.sirchie.com/FingerprintTaking_Contents.aspx.
I use the red gun for things like showing how to hand a firearm to someone else. I can show a common mistake and put my hand in front of it without making me or the class nervous. I don't teach "wrong way" for things like grip, stance, and etc. -- for all that I teach the right way and then do corrections. Don't know about the NRA method (I don't remember that from the class... hmmm.... did I forget something else?), but sometimes showing the reasoning behind right and wrong can make things stick better. Just my opinion.glock fan said:Great info, but doesn't the "don't do this" method of teaching go contrary to the proper NRA teaching philosophy of not demonstrating the "wrong" way? JMHOUtahCFP said:First thing is to become an NRA Basic Pistol instructor (or P.O.S.T. instructor). See http://www.nrahq.org/education/training/instructor.asp for instructions on becoming an NRA instructor.
Next, you go to http://www.bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFPHome.html and get the application at http://www.bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFinstructor.pdf. You will need to give a summary of your qualifications and past experience as a firearms instructor. Cost is $50 to apply, and you must attend a BCI instructor certification course which costs $25. The BCI course must be taken every three years (see http://www.bci.utah.gov/CFP/InstructorNewsletters/200705_Instructor_Newsletter.pdf). You will need to submit a course outline, but the basic outline is provided by BCI.
It is also handy to become proficient at taking fingerprints. There is some good material on taking fingerprints at the BCI Web site (http://www.bci.utah.gov/CFP/Fingerprint_Handout.pdf), and the FBI has some good stuff as well (http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/takingfps.html). A good company for fingerprinting materials is Sirchie -- http://www.sirchie.com/FingerprintTaking_Contents.aspx.
Make sure you get a "red gun" (e.g., http://www.copquest.com/21-2100.htm) for use in your class to show the "don't do this" stuff.
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I hope he doesn't train his officers in that manner... I seem to recall a DEA officer using the same technique in a K-12 classroom a while back. :disgusted:xmirage2kx said:At least it is not the: Do as I say, not as I do method of teaching like they have in riverdale :ROFL: