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OK. I admit it. I went over to the dark side and bought myself a PF-9 at Van Wagenens. I was really thinking about a P3-AT or the new Ruger LCP, but decided that I didn't want to buy another set of dies. Took her out this afternoon by the lake and ran just over fifty round count through her without any problems until one of my reloads got stuck part way into the chamber. Not the pistols fault.

After getting home and removing the offending cartridge from the chamber I discovered that the case was just enough out of spec not to chamber in the Kel-Tec. Funny thing is, the cartridge chambered just fine in my other nines - the Kel-Tec's chamber is tight. After taking a random sampling of the over 1500 rounds of reloaded 9mm in my workshop and dropping them into the barrel, I found that this was an isolated case. Based on the serial number this particular pistol was manufactured after 01/2008 so it has all the modifications previous models were lacking.

Overall impressions - Nice light, reliable pistol that is comfortable to carry in my front pocket. However, I think I'm going to carry IWB with a Galco Stow-n-go holster and will make this my daily carry.

 

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I totally agree. It's a great little pocket gun with respectable punch. I decided to go without the mag extension though, it was less comfortable for me to shoot and made a little more of a print in my pocket. The custom Arma-Laser works great for it too. :)

 
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I too just bought this gun at Van Wag's even though I usually think that establishment is of the devil. I an impressed witht he guns profile and weight. The trigger pull is veeerrryyyy long and can certainly affect your aim if you are not patient with it. My only gripe is the recoil which is very noticable and I have noticed I can get a bruise along side the inside of my lower thumb bone after putting over 50 rounds through it at any given time. Perhaps that is to be expected of a gun that is so light.

Overall performance though is I have noticed no trouble with rounds feeding and it is very accurate.
 

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Matthew Hunter said:
I too just bought this gun at Van Wag's even though I usually think that establishment is of the devil. I an impressed witht he guns profile and weight. The trigger pull is veeerrryyyy long and can certainly affect your aim if you are not patient with it. My only gripe is the recoil which is very noticable and I have noticed I can get a bruise along side the inside of my lower thumb bone after putting over 50 rounds through it at any given time. Perhaps that is to be expected of a gun that is so light.

Overall performance though is I have noticed no trouble with rounds feeding and it is very accurate.
Welcome to the world of Kel-Tecs. Thats how they ALL are. Great carry guns and effective at close ranges but not fun range guns.
 
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PW said:
Welcome to the world of Kel-Tecs. Thats how they ALL are. Great carry guns and effective at close ranges but not fun range guns.
not mine :thumbdn: :bang2: if and wen I ever get it back from the factory :roll: it might go bang 6 weeks and counting :x
 

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I sold my R5***.

Couldn't hit anything with it.

Then at 300 rounds (when people start thinking these guns are okay...) I was getting nose dived rounds in the mag.

Rapid fire I would be lucky to get all shots on paper.

Bought a kahr PM40. Seriously, less recoil then the 9mm pf9.

And in complete rapid fire at 10 yards all shots were within 3 inches of bullseye.

I originally liked the pf9, but it truly isn't pocketable, and the failures that appeared (more then half the shots) came after the brake in period.
 

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but it truly isn't pocketable
I wish somebody would've told me that... :lolbang: I pocket carry mine all the time, and it has never been exposed, even people who know me and 'look' for guns usually guess its in my diversionary fanny pack. :ROFL:
 

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:agree:

Heck, I pocket-carry a Kimber Ultra Carry .45ACP (and have for several years) that no one, including police, seems to have noticed. But then, of course, I don't wear jeans and shorts designed by Speedo.
 

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I bought a PF-9 a couple months ago in the pursuit of a smaller, lighter carry gun that I wouldn't mind getting abused in the rigors of daily carry. It was listed on KSL "with a couple of hundred rounds through it" like every other gun in the classifieds. I took it out and put 100 rounds of PMC, Federal , Walmart White Box, and Remmington through it and had just about every failure imaginable. Failure to feed, failure to eject, failure to fire, failure to make me happy! :cry: I promptly visited KTOG.org and researched the various problems that I was facing. I found that sometimes brass shavings can work their way in to the firing pin cavity. I threw a bunch of cleaning solvent down the hole and worked the firing pin back and forth, and voila! Out came some brass shavings. I then went to Walmart and found some appropriate fine-grit sandpaper in the automotive section and polished my feed ramp. I also found some nasty burrs on the slide that were causing rough action problems. After an hour or so of fiddling with sandpaper, snap caps & solvent I was happy with the results. It felt like a completely different gun. Finally it felt smooth like I thought it should. :D

I then took it to the range and got the results that I wanted. About 50-100 rounds later without a single malfunction I'm as happy as could be. I'd like to put a couple hundred more trouble-free rounds through it before I'll be confident enough to carry it. I now understand why several people on KTOG.org say that when they buy a new PF-9 they immediately polish the feed ramp and look for burrs & such even before they take it to the range the first time. These guns are inexpensive, and not too much care goes into fit & finish, that's for sure.

Kel Tec's customer service is fabulous so far. With all of my fiddling with the feed ramp & such, I didn't securely pop my assembly pin back in the last time. It fell out somewhere and I lost it. I called Kel Tec, expecting to pay for a new assembly pin, but they sent one to me free of charge, and never asked me if I bought it new, used, or even what my serial number was. I had my pin in hand 3 days later.

As far as accuracy is concerned, it's great. I'm able to keep a tight group at 10 yards just fine, but please don't ask me to shoot more than about 50 rounds in one session. (And yes, I put a Houge Jr. grip on it.) The PF-9 is meant to be carried and have a few magazines emptied, but it is NOT a range gun. It's so thin, light, and the muzzle flips up hard enough that it hurts your hands after a while.

My wife will shoot it, but doesn't enjoy it. She says she'll stick with her Kahr PM9. Other friends that have shot the pistol after 2 or three shots just start laughing and hand it back to me. It's not for everyone, but I like it.
 
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Given my experience with kel-tec I'd prefer a sharp stick or a can of pepper spray to the garbage produced by that company. :puke:
 

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Car Knocker said:
:agree:

Heck, I pocket-carry a Kimber Ultra Carry .45ACP (and have for several years) that no one, including police, seems to have noticed. But then, of course, I don't wear jeans and shorts designed by Speedo.
I carry a ruger sp101, cz p01 and a kahr cw9, all in pocket holsters and have never been "made" except by my girlfriend when she tried to slap my leg... lol.
 

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Thought I'd update this review now that I've had this pistol for six months. I take it out at least once a week and run a couple of magazines through it. It definitely isn't something you want to shoot for extended sessions. However, for a semi-pocket pistol chambered for the 9mm its hard to beat. I continue to have flawless functioning of the pistol with both factory and my own reloads. Its not pretty and its not all steel, but I have every confidence it will go bang when I need it and it beats carrying a sharp stick or pepper spray.
 
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Car Knocker said:
:agree:

Heck, I pocket-carry a Kimber Ultra Carry .45ACP (and have for several years) that no one, including police, seems to have noticed. But then, of course, I don't wear jeans and shorts designed by Speedo.
I carry a ruger sp101, cz p01 and a kahr cw9, all in pocket holsters and have never been "made" except by my girlfriend when she tried to slap my leg... lol.
You are not Olive Oil either, I doubt that I could pull off that method of carry.
 

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I purchased a PF-9 a couple of months ago. All I can say is "LOVE IT!" Great conceal weapon, no jams, eject problems, anything, and I find it very comfortable to shoot, including recoil, everything. Trigger pull is long, but not a problem. Very accurate. Great gun thus far. :dancing:
 

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I took my PF-9 out shooting again a couple weeks ago. After each round, the magazine would drop out the bottom. I went to KTOG.org and found out that it was a little plastic piece that kept the mag in that had worn out. This was a bit surprising since I only have maybe 4-5 hundred rounds through it. I called Kel-tec and then had me a replacement METAL piece in a few days. I followed the instructions on KTOG.org and had it fixed in 5 minutes. It seems to be functioning great now and I hope it stays that way.
 

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I took my PF-9 out shooting again a couple weeks ago. After each round, the magazine would drop out the bottom. I went to KTOG.org and found out that it was a little plastic piece that kept the mag in that had worn out. This was a bit surprising since I only have maybe 4-5 hundred rounds through it. I called Kel-tec and then had me a replacement METAL piece in a few days. I followed the instructions on KTOG.org and had it fixed in 5 minutes. It seems to be functioning great now and I hope it stays that way.
The picture that comes to my mind for some reason is in "The Apple Dumpling Gang" when Don Knotts goes to shoot his pistol and it falls apart. :ROFL:

ian (who is sorry if he has offended)
 
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