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Boycott the Lee Kay Center. Here are my reasons:

1. They are Nazi's
2. They treat you like a second class citizen out there
3. They won't allow legally owned Suppressors on their range. This really bothers me. The ATF says I can have it, the BCI says I can have it, yet I can't use them at the State owned, public, and tax funded facility. That is just silly!
 

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I agree, they are Nazi's out there. I was not comfortable there when I last went. I even had to wait 15 minutes before I could even go down range to put up targets. They were very anal. I had about an hour of sunlight left so this really did not please me. As for safety, I have always been safer firing weapons with my brothers alone than with large groups of people.
The last bad experience I had with any type of range was at an archery range where some broad(yes I used that word--because she was!), began shooting at her target while I and about four other people were still retrieving arrows. I was within a foot of being hit by one of her misses. Never went back, that is also how I feel about Lee kay. :(
 

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I like their prices, but I still don't like to shoot there. They have some weird rules. One time, I put two small targets on the same stand so that I wouldn't have to walk out there twice and a range officer made me take one down. What's wrong with having two targets if they both fit within the space on the stand? Also, I don't like the cease fires. If you get there right after one, you have to wait 15 minutes for the next one before you can do anything.
 

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Yeah they definitely take the fun out of shooting. If shooting was limited to only shooting at the Lee Kay Center I would simply keep 1 gun for home protection, and sale all my others! :cry:
 

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Won't allow legal suppressors? News to me. I had a guy with a suppressor attached to his AR-15 variant shooting next to me. Really sweet setup. He used it for coyote busting.

I think it depends on when you're on the range, how often you go, and how well you know the range staff. I used to go once a week on Thursday mornings - don't go as much now because of the weather and because I'm a stay at home dad with an eight year old - and really know the staff well and they will accommodate me if the range is empty.

I will say though, that there are a few there that come across as range nazis and are a bear to deal with. I just remember when they're on duty and make sure to avoid being there at the same time.
 

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"How often do I go out there?" I try to avoid going out there, but I really like their 300 yard range. With more and more development you have to really drive far these days to go where you can legally shoot without being near anyone.
 

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CR500AF - I was going out there once a week. Thursday mornings were perfect for my schedule because my daughter was in school and I could get away. I'm now spending more time volunteering at her school and am trying to figure out another day in the week that I can make it. If not, I'll just go over by Utah Lake and set up targets using my laser range finder to verify distance for rifle. Its a lot closer to home and there's really no one out there on the weekdays. Only problem is having to lug your own bench if you want to dial your rifle in. Either way, I'm more likely to spend more time with my pistols than my rifles since its easier to lose proficiency with a handgun than a rifle.
 

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Down the road when I build a house I want to put a range into my basement! :nilly:
 

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CR500AF said:
Down the road when I build a house I want to put a range into my basement! :nilly:
I'm actually arguing that with my wife right now. We're building a new home and we plan to leave the basement unfinished. For now, at least. We're also going to install radiant heating so the ground floor/basement ceiling will have a 1.5" slab of concrete under the regular carpet, tile, etc., which should provide really good sound insulation.

My thought is that if I suspend a 1/4" steel plate at a 45 degree angle and build a sand box underneath it, I should have a nice backstop for a little pistol range in the basement. I might have to roll out some cheap carpet on the floor and maybe put some of that eggshell foam on the walls to absorb some of the noise, but it should still be both easy and cheap, especially since I already have the steel plate.

My wife just rejects the idea of an indoor range as an extravagance. I've decided to stop arguing for now, and then after we move in I'll just build it :)
 

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Make sure to check city laws regarding shooting within city limits.....you will probably be in violation, not to mention your insurance costs if you claim it "properly".

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CR500AF said:
Down the road when I build a house I want to put a range into my basement! :nilly:
I'm actually arguing that with my wife right now. We're building a new home and we plan to leave the basement unfinished. For now, at least. We're also going to install radiant heating so the ground floor/basement ceiling will have a 1.5" slab of concrete under the regular carpet, tile, etc., which should provide really good sound insulation.

My thought is that if I suspend a 1/4" steel plate at a 45 degree angle and build a sand box underneath it, I should have a nice backstop for a little pistol range in the basement. I might have to roll out some cheap carpet on the floor and maybe put some of that eggshell foam on the walls to absorb some of the noise, but it should still be both easy and cheap, especially since I already have the steel plate.

My wife just rejects the idea of an indoor range as an extravagance. I've decided to stop arguing for now, and then after we move in I'll just build it :)
 

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Two answers to that. 1. Suppressors :wink: 2. I am an insurance agent, so I got that covered too! :)
 

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I was under the impression that Suppressors were illegal or do you have to have a special permit to own one. Just curious thanks.
 

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No you can own them, you just have to pay $200.00 in tax. YUCK! They are great, I own two and am getting a 3rd shortly! They shouldn't be so hard to get, they should come as a standard accessory to all guns. They don't silence any gun! THey make it safe to shoot without hearing protection, they are great. I highly recommend them to anyone. There is a huge misconception that they make guns silent, this is completely false, there is still plenty of noise, it just isn't harmful to your ears. Buy one! Buy Many! :wink: It makes your shooting experience all the more enjoyable!
 

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FYI. I think the process to get a suppressor is way easier than getting a concealed permit, it just costs more $$$$$
 

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$200 for each one. But it isn't so painful, because you can pay the $200 to the BATFE / Department of Treasury, and then slowly pay for your suppressor per your dealers requirements, some allow lay-away plans, others require you to pay up front. I got one for a .22 ($300), a .223 ($600), and I am getting a .338 ($1,300) I'll use that on my .340 Weatherby! The .223 suppressor is also used on my .17 HMR.
 

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FYI. I think the process to get a suppressor is way easier than getting a concealed permit, it just costs more $$$$$
I don't know about easier, I didn't have to make an appointment with the county sherriff representative in charge of nfa cleo signoffs and wait two weeks to get my paperwork back for a cfp. That was a little frustrating, but other than that it was really a piece of cake. To be fair there was some sort of big law enforcement event going on at the time.
 

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CR500AF said:
FYI. I think the process to get a suppressor is way easier than getting a concealed permit, it just costs more $$$$$
I don't know about easier, I didn't have to make an appointment with the county sherriff representative in charge of nfa cleo signoffs and wait two weeks to get my paperwork back for a cfp. That was a little frustrating, but other than that it was really a piece of cake. To be fair there was some sort of big law enforcement event going on at the time.
You have been duked by someone! I could do all that is neccessary for a suppressor/full auto/ etc. today. as far as turning my paper work into the post office. You don't need to go to the Sheriffs office, that isn't true. You can have BCI sign your forms, I too went to the SLC Sheriffs range and spent a week waiting for that guy to sign off on my papers, and then have to go the process of sitting in his office having him make me feel like he was doing me a favor for signing the paper work. Stupid! (I made that mistake with my first suppressor, then I learned the easy way) Easy processs! Go to the dealer, pay for your suppressor (this is neccessary to get the Serial # to go on your forms to the ATF), then go to kinkos on your way to the BCI to get your Passport Pics, then go to the BCI, at the BCI you will get your Fingerprints done, and then you will give your finger prints & ATF forms to the girl at the counter, she will then take them to the boss/director/ head person and about 15-20 minutes later she calls your name out and hands you your completed forms. Then you proceed to your loacal Post Office and send them off to the NFA branch / BATFE. Then in about 30-45 days you get your stamp in the mail! Not too hard really! :D
 

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You have been duked by someone!
I wondered that very thing. Thinking back, my dealer did say that he required first time NFA transferees to get the signoff from the Sherriff, and that for future transfers he would send people to BCI. From what you say that is not a requirement, but I'm sure that he would not have signed the form 4 otherwise. Since this is a Boycott thread, for anyone interested I got my first silencer through Impact Guns, SLC (Kearns).

I've learned a bunch since then, most importantly that there are other Class III dealers. My next can will be for a 9mm pistol and I plan on using FBMG.
 
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