Lee Kay Center
81 - 100 of 115 Posts
Joined
·
1,794 Posts
Thanks rufus :thumbsup:
By the way, you're not telling me its closing early on Wednesday April 1st just because its April Fool's Day are ya? :lol2:
By the way, you're not telling me its closing early on Wednesday April 1st just because its April Fool's Day are ya? :lol2:
Joined
·
1,794 Posts
:thewave:
Joined
·
5 Posts
Im new here so please bear with me, don't know if this is in the right place. Been shooting all around like west of utah lake, out in the west desert and so on. Went to Holliday and thought it was ok, but not greaat. Indorr ranges are just too loud and confined for me. Went to Lee Kay a couple times and this is what happened. Went on the 70 yard range to find out its really a 50 and got set up. Within 5 minutes I was told I didn't know what I was doing, my pistol was a piece of crap and the range nazi I was talking to knew a gunsmith and could fix my gun right up. Stayed about half hour and left disgusted. Went back with a friend last week and the same guy was there, but there were two of the old guys there in the button up shirts. They treated me good and gave me a little advice. Work with the old greybeards. Ill have to think twice before going back
I always thought that this was a state owned building. If that is the case how can they stop us from carrying in there. I say we not just protest by not going there but I say we hold a protest out in front. Its time we do more then just not go to a place but show up in strength but then I am not the type of person who just seats there and does nothing.
Lee Kay, like some other places, has every shooter sign the "book" at the front counter. You print your name then sign your name. I've had to do this at other ranges and other types of facilities. At the top of the sign in page is a statement the reads, more or less, that you will comply with range policies and the policies enumerated on the sheet opposite where you sign. It's right there in front of you. Now folks, this page WAS written by a lawyer. It lists the normal common sense things you would expect as well as an agreement that you will not open carry while on the range. It's that simple. If you cannot comply with the agreement you have signed, you lose your shooting privileges. Remember, you have agreed in writing not to open carry. The only exception is a peace officer displaying a badge. This is one of the instances where most people don't bother to read what they are signing. This page is also clearly posted on the pistol range if there are questions.
On a much happier note, the official policy concerning suppressed weapons has finally changed to what it should have been all along. Make sure you bring your paperwork, be prepared to show it and have fun. Common sense has prevailed.
On a much happier note, the official policy concerning suppressed weapons has finally changed to what it should have been all along. Make sure you bring your paperwork, be prepared to show it and have fun. Common sense has prevailed.
Joined
·
1,590 Posts
Has an exception to 76-10-500(2) for LKC been written by the legislature?rufus said:
That is great news. Will photo copies be acceptable? Most people will only carry copies, and keep the original paperwork in a very safe place.rufus said:
Joined
·
8,738 Posts
There is a valid question as to whether or not the range can legally make that restriction. Common sense or not, it sounds like an "ordinance, regulation, or rule pertaining to firearms", and only the state legislature can make those, per 76-10-500. Unless there's some other statute that grants ranges permission to regulate carry methods, it's an illegal rule.rufus said:
Unfortunately, the same argument probably applies to other absolutely essential range safety rules, such as ceasing fire when people are going downrange to check their targets. Of course, someone violating *that* rule should probably be arrested and prosecuted for reckless endangerment, so you could argue that it's not so much a range rule as an application of existing law. When the Range Officer calls "cease fire" he's not giving order, he's informing you that people are going to be heading downrange, and choosing to fire would be unsafe and unlawful.
Other rules, such as the "no rapid fire" rule are interesting questions. I wouldn't be surprised that any number of the rules are actually illegal. Personally, I wouldn't press the issue, but someone probably could.
Ruger
Contrary to what is posted here, with a few notable exceptions (sorry 'bout that but there are overbearing buttheads in every group), the RO's out there main goal in life is not to make life miserable for the customers. It's to make sure everybody goes home that day, happy if possible. We're volunteers. That means we're there cause we want to be of service and we enjoy what we do. There are times it's really tough as there are overbearing buttheads in the public also. As for me, a photocopy would be just fine. Matter of fact the folks I've asked, when they reach for their bag to show me the paper work are told if you're reaching for it you've got it and I leave them alone. The pros have it plainly visible so no question needs to be asked. Again, common sense can prevail.
Contrary to what is posted here, with a few notable exceptions (sorry 'bout that but there are overbearing buttheads in every group), the RO's out there main goal in life is not to make life miserable for the customers. It's to make sure everybody goes home that day, happy if possible. We're volunteers. That means we're there cause we want to be of service and we enjoy what we do. There are times it's really tough as there are overbearing buttheads in the public also. As for me, a photocopy would be just fine. Matter of fact the folks I've asked, when they reach for their bag to show me the paper work are told if you're reaching for it you've got it and I leave them alone. The pros have it plainly visible so no question needs to be asked. Again, common sense can prevail.
Joined
·
1,590 Posts
Rufus,
Thanks to you and all of the volunteers at LKC. What you do is very much appreciated and I didn't intend to sound as if you folks made me or any of my students miserable, quite the contrary.
I was just asking a few questions that I didn't know the answer to. I would much rather ask questions than go on assumptions and possibly give out misinformation.
Thanks to you and all of the volunteers at LKC. What you do is very much appreciated and I didn't intend to sound as if you folks made me or any of my students miserable, quite the contrary.
I was just asking a few questions that I didn't know the answer to. I would much rather ask questions than go on assumptions and possibly give out misinformation.
well why not have a day for Permit holders, those that do not want to spend twenty bucks just to go shoot that is what it cost me at a local indoor range. I know that the police use the range on some days. I wish I could go there and practice my draw and fire, that is all I wish and to do so with out paying an arm and leg. I took hunter safety out there and most of the guys I dealt with were very nice. So if there is a way we can rent or maybe use it on a day it is closed that would be great.
Joined
·
17 Posts
If you're getting into law enforcement you should also ask for the paperwork on everything people bring there, then you can run their serial numbers through NCIC to make sure all of the items people bring there are legal. I appreciate the desire to make sure everything is legit, but why treat the person who brings a select fire rifle or suppressor without his paperwork, worse than the gang banger who drove (a car with a broken steering column and side window) there to shoot a Glock with an obscured serial? Maybe the ROs should focus on safety and education, and leave the law enforcement to the professionals.rufus said:
:dunno:
That does sound strange that you would have to show paperwork for having a suppressor. My dad was able to get one a while back, and he was told (I believe by the sheriff, but maybe someone else) that he wouldn't have to prove to anyone that he had it legally. That's just what I got out of what he said. So it's strange to me that a range would require such paperwork.
81 - 100 of 115 Posts
