[Jeff Johnson]

According to City Crime Rankings: Crime in Metropolitan America, 14th Edition published by CQ Press, the Logan (Utah and Idaho) metro area is the safest in the nation.

It looks like you have to pay for the report, even to get the electronic version, but here is a Press Release (18 November 2007) that says the following:

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The Logan region of Utah and Idaho tops the rankings as the safest U.S. metropolitan area. The Detroit-Livonia-Dearborn metropolitan region in Michigan ranks as the most dangerous for the fourth consecutive year.
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There are lots and lots of guns here. You think the Brady bunch can explain that away? :twisted:

 

[Cinhil]

Awesome to here--Thanks Jeff.

 

[tap-rack-bang]

there are lots of guns in Detroit too but here we have the guns too

 

[apollosmith]

That's pretty cool. It makes me proud to live where I'm at and for me, gives me even more motivation to keep it safe by packing every day.

A lot of folks around here wonder why someone would be armed when it's so safe but never take the time to think that maybe it's so safe BECAUSE we're armed.

Don't forget that Detroit has some of the most stringent gun control laws in the nation, right along with most of the other most dangerous cities on the list.

 

[bane]

Criminals aren't quite as stupid as we usually think they are.

This also brings up a point that I have been pondering the last few months (and yes, it pertains to guns and gun control, bear with me) -- without going into details that I don't really want to get into, suffice it to say that I deal with a pretty strong addiction... fortunately, not an illegal one. I have noticed lately my addiction is feeling a bit more controllable... when I was in the Navy in SD my life was anything but my own, anything but a life that I directed and controlled (I realized I signed on the line and served my time honorably, but nevertheless during those years I gave up much of the control of my life). It was during those years that my addiction got so out of hand it became obvious. Now that I have earned back my right to control my life I have noticed my addiction is improving. A few months ago I finally decided to purchase a handgun for defense of my home and apply for a permit for defense of my self and have noticed my addiction is improving even more.

The thought has occurred to me that perhaps things like addictions (and criminal tendencies???) might partly arise from the unconscious sense of being unable to control one's own life and feeling like a victim to whatever the wind blows by you.

In context of this discussion, I wonder if to at least some degree criminals are created by growing up in a chaotic atmosphere where they feel they have no control over their lives and destinies. Thus, cities which have greater respect for Individual Rights foster individuals with a greater sense of self-esteem and thus communities less prone to crime.

:?:

 

[Paul]

The thought has occurred to me that perhaps things like addictions (and criminal tendencies???) might partly arise from the unconscious sense of being unable to control one's own life and feeling like a victim to whatever the wind blows by you.

In context of this discussion, I wonder if to at least some degree criminals are created by growing up in a chaotic atmosphere where they feel they have no control over their lives and destinies. Thus, cities which have greater respect for Individual Rights foster individuals with a greater sense of self-esteem and thus communities less prone to crime.

:?:

This is called HOPE. Take it away or limit it and bad things follow.

-PW