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Will this affect the likelihood of people seeking treatment for emotional issues?
Yes.964.29%
No.214.29%
They'll have to weigh the risk of forever losing a right, against the rist of not getting treatment.321.43%
More will get treatment in another country and pay cash for it so insurance won't report them.00.00%
 

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If Bush signs this into law.. which is likely. :evil:

Season's Greetings from the Demokratik majority.....

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Veterans Disarmament Bill Is On Its Way To President Bush: …"The core of the bill's problems is section 101(c)(1)(C), which makes you a 'prohibited person' on the basis of a 'medical finding of disability...

Note that unlike with an accused murderer, the hearing doesn't have to occur. The 'lawful authority' doesn't have to be unbiased. The veteran is not necessarily entitled to an attorney â€" much less an attorney financed by the government,"

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Having read the bill, I feel the GOA's position is a complete misrepresentation of the facts.
 

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Car Knocker said:
Having read the bill, I feel the GOA's position is a complete misrepresentation of the facts.
Just imagine how anti-2A judges, physicians and psychologists are going to interpret what it says they should (and will) do…

 

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Ruger Collector said:
Just imagine how anti-2A judges, physicians and psychologists are going to interpret what it says they should (and will) do…
They already have that option, so that hasn't changed.
 

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Holy shrinking gun rights batman :shock:
 

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I wrote to my Senators concerning this bill, a couple months ago. The replies I got basically said "Thanks for sharing your opinion, I'm going to vote for it anyway." Not that I expect a US Senator to actually listen to one of his/her constituents, not with so many Special Interest Groups and lobbyists to listen to.

In response to the poll question, I answered yes. That is, IF people are educated enough to know that seeking mental health treatment might mean giving up your 2A rights. More likely, people will not be that educated.

As a veteran, I know a lot of guys who came home with symptoms of PTSD. The VA and Pentagon have tried so hard to eliminate the stigma that goes along with PTSD, and get victims of the disease the necessary treatment. Now Congress, in its infinite wisdom, is going to take a huge step backwards by making it possible for a VA doctor to take away your right to gun ownership.
 

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This makes me soooo upset. Veterans, THE ONES WHO FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHTS, are now having their Rights taken away because they did their job WITH FIREARMS..... What are they thinking? I'm a Veteran and I have seen some not so nice things... Now if I have a problem with what I saw and dealt with, they can take my guns away? NOT RIGHT.
 

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I wrote to my Senators concerning this bill, a couple months ago. The replies I got basically said "Thanks for sharing your opinion, I'm going to vote for it anyway."
Funny, that's the exact same response I rec'd when I wrote my Congressman regarding the FairTax... essentially his letter said that according to his poll few of his constituents were interested enough in it to warrant his getting behind it. While I can certainly understand the power of numbers and the fact that our Reps have to consider catering to the majority in most instances, I honestly believe (in regards to the FairTax) that most of his constituents probably don't really even know what the FairTax is.

With regard to this anti-2A bill, I wouldn't be surprised if something similar is occurring... that is, your Senator is CHOOSING to back the bill and THEN defending his position with polls numbers of his constituents which likely only reflects a majority that doesn't actually understand all of the factors and all of the ramifications of the bill.

This is another example of why this mixed statist economy of ours is doomed to failure unless we wake up and realize our urgent need to get back to fundamental Constitutional principles and realize the importance of individual Rights.
 

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I agree with your comment Bane however, I would need to add that the polls these politicians are using are flawed or too leading with the allowed responses not allowing for a true statistic to be represented. This of course follows the example of most polls I have seen. Sometimes education onm the issue may have nothing to do with the results because of this type of thing.
Just my .02.
 

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Could someone please link to the langauge in the version of the bill that is awaiting Bush's signature that takes away veteran's 2nd amendment rights? Thanks.
 

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Cinhil, I totally agree with your expansion of my comments. I still believe that lack of education on important issues is a prime factor in many of these types of issues but I do also agree with you that the polls are flawed.
 
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