I know FBMG has them as discussed over on Monster Hunter Nation, but you might want to call down there (801-571-1160) or talk to our FBMG link: FBMG Smithy.
I certainly do understand the inherent accuracy advantage in the M1A, my reasons for owning the guns may seem a bit strange but here goes, I have always loved precision and shooting at targets will be part of my reason for ownership. But I also always have this urge that I feel I need to satisfy that I want a rifle in various calibers that are functional for defensive/tactical means as well as some hunting. So capacity/manueverability etc are issues. Along this line of reasoning I plan on owning a S&W M&P AR style rifle. I would also like a 7.62x39 caliber rifle as well as a .308. These are the 2 calibers I am considering in the Saiga.To me this covers a broad span of tactical/defensive applications. I as well want to own Kel-Tec's PLR-16 .223 pistol. I would like all the guns to be capable of about 1.5 MOA, except for the 7.62x39 which It might be more realistic to have lower expectations of this round. I have read where the Saiga .308 has been capable of 1.5 MOA accuracy. So, for the price of an M1A, I could have a 7.62x39 Saiga, .308 Saiga and the Kel-Tec's PLR-16. But I understand the need for a quality gun, and I certainly don't want to sacrifice too much in that department. I'd rather own 1 quality gun than 2 or 3 pieces of junk.MarshallDodge said:What are you going to be doing with it? Target, Plinking ?
If you are going to use it as a target rifle then I would suggest the M1A. There is a reason the M1A costs three times more than the Saiga and the main reason is accuracy.
Thanks. To be honest, I really have no concept of what is overpaying or not for an AR style gun. The Smith and Wesson is about $800 at gunnies. I know the rock river's are more highly recommended, but I would assume they are also costly, or are you simply speaking what you get for the money versus a what is one of the cheaper AR's I can buy?GeneticsDave said:You're going to over pay for that S&W M&P AR15, you should really consider a Stag or Rock River instead. Stag is great and they have them all over the place, particularly at FBMG.
No problem, it is a good question and made me articulate what I actually want. Admittedly, I may not be as informed as I ought to be about AR's but there is so much "fluff" out there about them, that getting to the meat of it and finding good, objective reviews seems a bit difficult. But I guess, unless I will be engaging targets beyond 200 yards or so for defensive purposes, which is pretty unlikely unless the Russians come up through Cuba and I'm stuck in the mountains, peeing in a radiator w/ Patrick Swayze... whoa, got off track. I may just get a gun like the saiga's in .308 and 7.62x39 along w/ an AR and call it good. Thanks.MarshallDodge said:sculpting, I didn't mean to question your purchase, just meant to point out why I would purchase one over the other..
:ROFL:sculptingmyguns said:...which is pretty unlikely unless the Russians come up through Cuba and I'm stuck in the mountains, peeing in a radiator w/ Patrick Swayze... whoa, got off track.
WOLVERINES!!!sculptingmyguns said:MarshallDodge said:which is pretty unlikely unless the Russians come up through Cuba and I'm stuck in the mountains, peeing in a radiator w/ Patrick Swayze... whoa, got off track. I may just get a gun like the saiga's in .308 and 7.62x39 along w/ an AR and call it good. Thanks.
Every broken AR I have ever been around was a Colt with one exception, an FN (not Belgian) these of course where military guns. RR did some damage to its reputation when they bought a few minor parts that where not as advertised, not high grade steel but, pot metal.... Over all the make a quality product and its near the top of my list, stag is another great choice, some S&Ws made just before S&W went mostly in house are not so good, otherwise they are quality. Any time something is as popular and everyone jumps on the band wagon there lemons, there are quality guns and there is junk. So much of the AR market is fluff, take the gasbuster charging handle its the most robust precision charging handle around bar none, its a quality product. But, the gasbuster is around 90.00 and a normal charging handle is 10-20.00, this gasbuster was originally designed to keep excess gas from suppressed AR's from blowing into you eye, that's it. These days most suppressor shooters use silicone on a stock handle as it gives a truly custom fit and a better seal. Better than half of these gee-wiz goodies are crap you dont need, ho many times have you seen just a flashlight and a fore grip on a 300.00+ rail system? Flashlights do not need repeat zero's, you dont need a high dollar rail for that, the expensive rails where built for lasers and optics things that need to maintain a zero.GeneticsDave said:You're going to over pay for that S&W M&P AR15, you should really consider a Stag or Rock River instead. Stag is great and they have them all over the place, particularly at FBMG.
I have not heard that they recently did this; when, whats up with it, is it another "retool"?MikeTaco said:I The problem you'll run into now is the fact that they're getting more and more rare since they're not being imported. (Again, this is the 2nd time Russian American Armory has done this)
I just reused the original trigger guard on my shoty. No welding needed. If you can use a dremel tool, drill, screwdrivers & pliers you can tackle the conversion.hedonistic said:I have not heard that they recently did this; when, whats up with it, is it another "retool"?MikeTaco said:I The problem you'll run into now is the fact that they're getting more and more rare since they're not being imported. (Again, this is the 2nd time Russian American Armory has done this)
Are you using the tromix bolt on trigger guard? Do you do the welding yourself? Have any advice for a AK74 noob?
I really want a .308 as well and i'm still looking.