I've sure been to plenty of gun shows at the Salt Palace and I was carrying.

Being a government facility, I don't think they can keep concealed weapons out.

My $.02 and worth every penny you paid for it. :lolbang:

 

To quote many a user on this board,

Concealed is concealed, is concealed.

:thumbsup:

As I write this, I sit in one of the waiting areas at Utah Valley Regional Med Center, a place that's notorious for their anti-gun policies. I won't say if I'm carrying or not, I'll just say that I LOVE my Crossbreed Supertuck :wink: :dancing:

 

Being a government facility, I don't think they can keep concealed weapons out.

It would be nice if that were true, but it's probably not.

This came up a while back with regard to an annual gay and lesbian rally which is held at the Salt Lake city building. The organizers leased the land around the beautiful old building for their event, and then denied members of a local pro-gun gay and lesbian group who wanted to open carry. David Nelson took it to the the city attorney and the attorney general's office, and the opinion that he got back was that although the city cannot ban firearms, when they lease the property for some event the event organizers can make their own rules. Nelson didn't pursue it in court, but after a lot of research and consultation decided that -- unfortunately -- the city attorney was probably right.

Now, in THIS situation, if the university is truly organizing and sponsoring this event, then it is their event, and any no-gun rules would be their rules -- but they can't make anti-gun rules, by law.

 

Being a government facility, I don't think they can keep concealed weapons out.

It would be nice if that were true, but it's probably not.

This came up a while back with regard to an annual gay and lesbian rally which is held at the Salt Lake city building. The organizers leased the land around the beautiful old building for their event, and then denied members of a local pro-gun gay and lesbian group who wanted to open carry. David Nelson took it to the the city attorney and the attorney general's office, and the opinion that he got back was that although the city cannot ban firearms, when they lease the property for some event the event organizers can make their own rules. Nelson didn't pursue it in court, but after a lot of research and consultation decided that -- unfortunately -- the city attorney was probably right.

Now, in THIS situation, if the university is truly organizing and sponsoring this event, then it is their event, and any no-gun rules would be their rules -- but they can't make anti-gun rules, by law.

I would agree that the Lessee would have the right to decide. And if this truly is a U of Utah event, I think they will be out of luck. Thanks for the clarification.

 

I fully agree that concealed is concealed is concealed. My concern is guards and wands at the door. While everything points to them having to allow it, this is one of those circumstances where experience says there will probably be an issue. :raisedbrow:

Mitt is a polorizing figure and in the national spotlight. I think they will bend over backwards to stay away from the fringes. I personally believe that the odds of them breaking the law and opening themselves up for a lawsuit or letting me in are about 50/50.

This is one of those cases where I am not trying to make any statement. I just want to go listen to a politician that interests me without have my rights trampled all over. I am hoping that there are similar circumstances in others experiences that I can draw from. :dunno:

 

You could always call the HIoP and ask them directly if they intend to ban CC at the event. The upside is you'll likely know beforehand, but the downside is that you're kind of tipping your hand. The person you call may actually raise a ruckus and your call could become the motivating factor in their decision to attempt to ban CC where they might not otherwise have attempted it.

On the balance, I think it's probably worth an anonymous phone call to ask, and I think the odds of them trying to ban CC are significantly slimmer than you do. It's been pretty well hashed out now and they're pretty clear on the idea that they can't ban lawful CC. Heck, their own policy says, "The University of Utah enforces state law regulating firearms on campus."

 

Just wear a studded belt and they'll chalk it up to that when they wand you.

 

Frankly....I would be very interested to see how an event featuring Mitt Romney would handle this.....Hmmmmm....

I think a good thing to do is to contact "the Mitt Romney People" and see how they react over the question of CC...(or OC)...when the big guy comes to town.....just say'in.

If the place gets set-up as a "secure area"....the question would be....whom requested it????????

 

Sounds like a great Open Carry event.

 

You could always CC in and then uncover once the event is underway.

 

You could always CC in and then uncover once the event is underway.

It's not my intention to make a statement here. I intend to CC. I just don't want to go through all the prep and cost just to get stopped at the door.

 

If the place gets set-up as a "secure area"....the question would be....whom requested it????????

Or better yet, does it comply with the law (as in was it authorized by the Legislature by statute)?

 

If the place gets set-up as a "secure area"....the question would be....whom requested it????????

Or better yet, does it comply with the law (as in was it authorized by the Legislature by statute)?

There aren't any legal requirements for "secure areas" like this. If a private organization wants to ban guns, they just set up whatever security they want and deny entrance to anyone they find carrying.

 

There aren't any legal requirements for "secure areas" like this. If a private organization wants to ban guns, they just set up whatever security they want and deny entrance to anyone they find carrying.

Neither the Salt Palace nor the University of Utah are private organizations. Both are public entities and therefore subject to UC 53-5a-102(5).

 

There aren't any legal requirements for "secure areas" like this. If a private organization wants to ban guns, they just set up whatever security they want and deny entrance to anyone they find carrying.

Neither the Salt Palace nor the University of Utah are private organizations. Both are public entities and therefore subject to UC 53-5a-102(5).

In which case they can't set up a "secure area" at all, so again there are no legal requirements

However, I'm not so sure you're right about the Salt Palace. Even if the property is government-owned, if it is leased out to a management company who actually operates it, they could make anti-gun rules.

 

I went to the Salt Palace tonight to see Mitt Romney...I just carried my LCP in my pocket, no problems.