Sans Holster, anyone?

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tapehoser

Discussion Starter · Jul 8, 2005

I only have 1 holster right now and it's a thigh holster (exposed) for my P89. It seems to fit pretty well stuffed in the jeans on the hip - as long as I'm wearing a long shirt to cover it.

Do any of you ever just grab your piece, stuff it in your jeans and go?

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concealedutah

· #2 · Jul 8, 2005

But sometimes I do my Ruger SP-101 revolver.

It just depends on the trigger control. In my pocket I feel okay with the REALLY hard pull on the ruger, but not the Glock. I don't make it a habit for the Ruger either. I often have an uncle mikes cheap holster around it in my pocket. I seems to stay in the pocket when I pull the revolver out.

I like what someone pointed out a while back somewhere: "It doesn't make sense that you pay $500 or so for a weapon and stick it in the cheapest holster you can find."

I've got a whole box of holsters... I think there are times I still use everyone of them.

I wish I had the money to buy more

But then I would probably just buy more guns :lol:

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tapehoser

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jul 8, 2005

So, when you carry, you always have 1 in the pipe? (thus the trigger control issue)

If I had a nicer, concealable holster, I'd keep one in the pipe also. For now, I'd have to rack the slide. Not too great if it's a tense situation but heck, if the guy is closer than 30 feet when I have to draw, ain't no chance that gun is coming out of my pants!

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concealedutah

· #4 · Jul 8, 2005

tapehoser said:
So, when you carry, you always have 1 in the pipe? (thus the trigger control issue)

I guess I never considered carrying anyother way. I had a training film that I had to watch before I deployed once that covered the M-9 use in the Air Force. I was an NCO and would have been issued an M16, but they made me watch the M-9 film.. Go figure... The condition I was expected to carry in was cocked and locked. Several years later I hear that the Army carries with an empty chamber? That surprised me, but then I watched some of those guys in the Chow hall "Playing" with their weapons at the table.

When I got my concealed permit I never even concidered leaving it unloaded. ("Utah unloaded" that is..)

I've carried my Glock in thunderwear without a second thought. I have tried (unloaded) to pull the Glock trigger through the thunderwear and couldn't. All of my holsters except the Uncle Mike cheapys cover the trigger well, so there is little or no chance to an AD or ND. The cheap ones are a heavy cloth type that "Could" allow something to happen. I don't use the one for my glock much, but still have one in the tube when I do, I just make sure I know what is hitting or poking at it when I do, or more likely, grab the revolver instead.

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blackpuma

· #5 · Jul 10, 2005

tapehoser said:
Do any of you ever just grab your piece, stuff it in your jeans and go?

Not quite that litterally. I carry my sidearm in a IWB holster, and keep it in the form-fitting holster when I'm at home. When I leave I grab the holstered gun, slide it inside my belt, and go. I've found that so convenient that there's no excuse for me to not carry when I leave the house.

The only time I don't do that is when I go to our Renaissance martial arts group or go to church. Then I just store the gun in the CD stowage between the driver and passenger seats.

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blackpuma

· #6 · Jul 10, 2005

tapehoser said:
So, when you carry, you always have 1 in the pipe?

Yes. My little .380 is double action on the first trigger pull, so the hammer is down and there's no chance of discharge during the normal course of life. The disadvantage is that it takes extra practice to control that first DA shot.

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Jeff Johnson

· #7 · Jul 12, 2005

"Mexican Carry", huh?

I personally am not in favor of the idea ... for several reasons. Not only because of the risk of an exposed trigger, but also because of the risk involved in the gun shifting and falling out. Also, if you need to put your hand on it in an emergency, you want the gun to be in the position and attitude that you expect. If you just stuff it into your waistband, there's no good guarantee that it will stay in place.

I use a leather DeSantis IWB holster for my SW99. It works well for me. On those days when I have to keep my SW99 in the car because of restrictions that I have to honor, I keep it in a cheap Uncle Mike's Sidekick holster hidden in the car. Then when I go elsewhere, I can still tuck it into my waistband at the 4 o'clock position. The high friction of the holster and the plastic clip do a good job of holding it in place. I'm also confident that the trigger is well-protected.

I'm trying to picture what you described about a thigh holster being covered by a long shirt. Must be a night-shirt.

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tapehoser

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jul 12, 2005

Sorry, Jeff. I re-read my post and it was not very clear. I meant to separate the 2 comments.

Let me re-phrase:

I only have 1 holster right now and it's a thigh holster (exposed) for my P89.

I rarely wear it.

It [the P89] seems to fit pretty well stuffed in the jeans on the hip - as long as I'm wearing a long shirt to cover it.

How's that?

I haven't had any problems just stuffing the gun into the waistband and heading out. Doesn't shift, doesn't move. I even played badminton with my family and no one noticed. And I do tend to keep it, as you said, in the '4 o'clock' position.

I will look into an IWB when I purchase a much more compact model from Clark!

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tapehoser

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jul 13, 2005

Also, I dont keep a cartridge in the pipe, so I don't worry about accidental discharge.

Jeff, I'm seriously considering the purchase of a Desantis Insider for my P89. That'll give me the confidence to carry 'one in the pipe', as it should be.

Thanks again.

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Udink

· #10 · Jul 13, 2005

tapehoser said:
Jeff, I'm seriously considering the purchase of a Desantis Insider for my P89. That'll give me the confidence to carry 'one in the pipe', as it should be.

I've got the DeSantis Insider for my Kel-Tec P-11, and it's served me well for two years. I carry on a tight budget (as you can tell by my carry piece and holster), but it's about time to upgrade (Glock anyone?

).

Anyhow, I've rarely carried without a holster, and when I have, it's been either around my yard or for a short walk around the block, and I've always just placed my gun directly into my front pocket. I don't think I could get away with safely carrying in my waistband without a holster, considering my build and clothing choices.

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tapehoser

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jul 13, 2005

Udink, does the holster make the butt of the gun sit below the belt, or is it slightly above the belt? Just don't want to make an incorrect purchase - expecially since it'll be done over the internet.

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Udink

· #12 · Jul 13, 2005

tapehoser said:
Udink, does the holster make the butt of the gun sit below the belt, or is it slightly above the belt? Just don't want to make an incorrect purchase - expecially since it'll be done over the internet.

If worn so that the clip on the holster rides perfectly horizontal to your waistline, the entire butt of the gun should sit below the belt line. However, I always tilt mine so that the bottom of the butt rides above my belt line. Here are some pictures I took when I first got the holster, but I don't wear it in my waistband like in the second picture.

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