[ian husford]

Does anyone know anything about this rifle? I heard that the .17 HMR is better than the .17 HM2 but other than that, nothing. I am playing with the idea of investing in one. I know, it isn't a pistol and will be tough to conceal.

ian

 

[Guest]

I do know that The Savages in this caliber are quite good and have some pretty darn good accuracy. I'd say for the money, the Savage is a very good option. I understand the best accuracy usually comes from the CZ- 452/453 Varmint models but the Savages and Marlins are quite good as well. Realize I am referring to reasonably prices guns. I'm guessing there are some $1000 models that may shoot a small degree better. I own the CZ - 452 Varmint and it is very accurate, but probably costs more than the Savage.

As far as the .17HMR being better than the HM2, it does shoot faster and flatter and subsequently will extend your range over the HM2. I would say at shorter distances they are pretty close, w/ the HMR having more "knockdown" power, but the advantage is more pronounced as your distances increase, the .17 HMR will have a distinct advantage in accuracy and impact force.

If there were anything I would do differently, I would have bought a more powerful scope. I have a Nikon Pro-Staff 3-9x40. It is a good scope. But w/ a rifle capable of some pin point accuracy, you will want a scope that you can really dial in on the bulls eye to take advantage of this rounds abilities. That's my 2 cents worth.

 

[MarshallDodge]

If the Savage is available with the accu-trigger I would get it. Otherwise I would get a CZ 452 with the set trigger.

 

[Guest]

If the Savage is available with the accu-trigger I would get it. Otherwise I would get a CZ 452 with the set trigger.

I believe the difference in the CZ 452 varmint and thr 453 varmint is the 453 has a fluted barrel and an adjustable trigger where the 452 does not. You will pay for it though. I find the trigger pull on my 452 to be very nice though, I have no concerns there. I honestly think you can't go wrong with the Savage or the CZ. The advantage to the Savage is maybe the magazines are easier to come by for cheaper and the gun itself may be cheaper. I was set to buy the Savage and still would buy one but I simply learned the CZ had a bit of an advantage (probably negligible) in accuracy and came w/ a very nice walnut stock.

 

[MarshallDodge]

If the Savage is available with the accu-trigger I would get it. Otherwise I would get a CZ 452 with the set trigger.

I believe the difference in the CZ 452 varmint and thr 453 varmint is the 453 has a fluted barrel and an adjustable trigger where the 452 does not. You will pay for it though. I find the trigger pull on my 452 to be very nice though, I have no concerns there.

I think we both said it wrong. :ack:

The 453 has the set trigger but I am not sure on adjustability. The 452 has a trigger with limited adjustments.

The 453 is the higher end model.

Sorry to hijack your Savage thread but I am from the school of thought that a good rifle comes with a good trigger.

 

[Guest]

Well heck, if thats true, I might learn to adjust mine. I Just went to Cz's website and it looks like they say both models are adjustable. Anyway, Savages are very good w/ adjustable triggers. Cz's are very good w/ adjustable trigger.

Here is the 452 model description which I have in .17 HMR "The CZ 452 actions are manufactured from steel billets not tubing or plastic, the barrels are hammer forged for accuracy and long life. The trigger is adjustable for weight, and the safety is located above the rear of the bolt and provides a positive firing pin block. Single shot adapters, 5 rd magazines and 10 rd magazines are available for this line of rimfire rifles. "

Here is some info on the 453 Varmint:

"More on the single-set trigger:
The single-set trigger provides both a standard hunting and a light, target style trigger pull on the same rifle depending on the demands of the situation. By operating the rifle in the same manner as any other bolt-action rifle, the rifle functions with a normal hunting rifle trigger pull (adjustable down to 2 lbs). If you are shooting from the bench, or have time to set up for the shot, push the trigger forward until you feel and hear a click. Now your normal hunting rifle has a target trigger pull (adjustable to less than ½ lb)"

http://www.danwessonfirearms.com/news_events.php

I am not well enough informed to offer any other advice.

 

[ian husford]

Thanks for the inputs. The model in question is a Savage 93 R17FXP. According to Savage's website, it does come with the accu-trigger and a Simmons 4x32 scope. Cabelas has it on sale for $200.

Here is the link: http://www.savagearms.com/93R17FXP.htm

I may have to make a trip to the Lehi Temple tomorrow.

ian

 

[Guest]

Well, I'd say go for it. Looks like a good price, especially if the scope is included. Savage has a good reputation. It won't be as accurate as maybe a heavy barrled model, but that doesn't mean it won't have very respectable accuracy. Go for it and enjoy it.

 

[CR500AF]

I have one, and I love it. I had mine threaded and added a A2 Flash Hider so I can attach my .223 suppressor. It is a fun gun to shoot. I just wish the .17 HMR ammo was cheap like a .22 or just a tad more. Great target rifle. :wink:

 

[69Roadrunner]

I've owned a Savage 93R17 and liked it. However, I discovered CZ 452 rifles and sold the Savage in order to buy the CZ. Like sculptingmyguns, I happen to like the overall finish of the CZ rifles and, if you're lucky, you can sometimes get a really nice walnut stock. As for the trigger adjustment on the CZ 452, there's a guy named Eric Brooks who sells $14 trigger kits that eliminate creep and reduce trigger pull - like a crisp and around two pounds or less trigger. If you decide you want to get one of the kits I would recommend going to Whittaker Guns - you can Google them and get the contact information - and order through them. Eric's service of late hasn't been too great and some customers complain of not getting their orders filled, either at all or very late.