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I have been back in SLC about a year and in that time I have shot two cases of miwall, one case of independence, half a case of Remington UMC, at lest a case of WWB walmart 9mm, a few random boxes and maybe 250 rounds WWB 147s through my can. Around 5k rounds of 9mm pistol and sub maybe 1.5k subgun shooting. Thats not typical, two classes and the subgun had something to do with that, but it was mostly making up for shooting so little in the box and working at a range. :D

Today, for the first time after this long winter, I hit the desert with my dad. I mostly view what I do at the range static no draws, few drills, and one target pretty informally. I feel that I can not advance there without training, a timer, and/or ammo that more closely approximates defensive ammo. I can and need to improve my shooting from unusual positions, transitions, low light, and shooting on the move, some may not agree with shooting on the move but it has its place.

Handguns aside we shot long guns, AR15, Remington .308 M700 HB, M11/9, and a shotgun, here in brief are the lessons learned, some just revisited.

Testing full house slugs from a bench hurts.
This gun is far from the 150yd gun I thought it was.
Shooting 00 for pattern is best done standing.
Patterning buck is an eyeopening experience 35yards from an OC 500 with standard run of the mill buck was stretching it. Better than I thought but not all pellets on target at that range with S&B and Win Ranger tactical, Focchi was better cup wad nickel plated. Federal tactical with the flight control wad is AMAZING patterned same as the others did at 35 all the way out to 50!!!
Shooting on the move with a handgun is hard!
Shooting on the move with a subgun works better but, is harder.
Shooting on the move with a AR15 was easy to make good rapid hits compared to the other two.
Shooting on the move with a shotgun, was easy but, not good in a crowd. I have said it before and I will say it again there is nothing a subgun can do that a shotgun cant do as well or better and its cheaper.
I dont shoot long guns nearly as well as I used too, someone 600yards away would be fairly safe.
Sub 1/2 MOA guns are now far more accurate than I can shoot them.
I officially suck at reading wind and Kentucky windage.
If you are within 50 yards of my pistol, shotgun, or subgun, you are not safe, at 600 yards unless I get a beltfed or you break out the lounge chair well....... laugh and flip the bird and move around a little your safe!

Shooting is expensive.
I need a .22lr
I need a shorter front sight on the Mossberg.

Shooting in the west desert is far more fun than the far east desert.

Stay safe and happy shooting!
 

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hedonistic said:
If you are within 50 yards of my pistol, shotgun, or subgun, you are not safe, at 600 yards unless I get a beltfed or you break out the lounge chair well....... laugh and flip the bird and move around a little your safe!
:ROFL: I know there are some of us here taking notes about this lesson. :ROFL:
 
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howlingwolfarms said:
I think the real question is...what's up with the cat?
Someone took my comment about killing someone and my avatar and decided I am a nutcase and off my meds. (Well a bunch of people) in on another thread well I went of on a bit of a rant on how repeatedly shooting someone is very likely to result in death, I apologized for not describing the Mozambique Mozambique drill in the prose used by his favorite romance novelist, and further commented he should go live in the pretty little rainbow kitty world in his mind and leave the fighting to real men like me.

Or something like that.

Wheres that pill bottle? :nilly:
 
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tapehoser said:
hedonistic said:
Wheres that pill bottle? :nilly:
:ROFL:

hedonistic, I'd love to meet you in person. You kill me!
I think a few might be afraid to meet me for that very reason :gun6:
Where in the great state of Utah are ya?
 
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tapehoser said:
"Greater Salt Lake Area", just like you. :D
If it was just like me you would have misspelled it too :wink:

Maybe some day at local range, Just look for the guy that looks like Jack Nickolson from the shinning but in a straight jacket.



Well I usually have a better shave...
 

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hedonistic said:
howlingwolfarms said:
I think the real question is...what's up with the cat?
Someone took my comment about killing someone and my avatar and decided I am a nutcase and off my meds. (Well a bunch of people) in on another thread well I went of on a bit of a rant on how repeatedly shooting someone is very likely to result in death, I apologized for not describing the Mozambique Mozambique drill in the prose used by his favorite romance novelist, and further commented he should go live in the pretty little rainbow kitty world in his mind and leave the fighting to real men like me.

Or something like that.

Wheres that pill bottle? :nilly:
You crack me up. It sounds like the other guy there needs for us to send him some feminine wipes. :twisted: Oh well, at least there's a few of us left to get a real man's job done.
 
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I am getting away from law enforcement I cant stand stupid people, child abuse, and I will never get the image of a child from a car accident. I responded too.... I will leave that without my usual commentary or humor. Lets just say its one of a few things I really really wish I could unsee.

I'd have less grey and, more hair if I never went to the box, that and I like life and wish to continue on with it so... I am getting out after a bit more reserve time. Glad there are those to continue but I am just not it anymore.
 

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Critical Incident Stress Debriefing. May not be so well known in the LE world, but we (Fire/EMS) use them to help guys get over really crappy calls. Ironically, most of them involve pediatrics calls. Pediatrics are the tough ones to get over.
 
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Stenny4 said:
hedonistic said:
... I will never get the image of a child from a car accident. I responded too....
Sounds like you may need a CISD.
Army cop, if it ain't battle related there is no such thing. Just like the VA hospital, much more emphasis on what happened over there than here.

Besides the SD should be a little more timely to be effective.

They are puttin me on :chill: so I dont :nilly: all over the place anymore.
 
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