No they are not! I am a certified teacher and have spent a lot of time in the schools. Teachers are responsible for teaching. They are instructed NOT to get involved in matters of security. If there is a fight, they are specifically told to NOT get physically involved. If the building were on fire or someone were shooting up the place, they have no obligation to get the kids out first.Kemo Sabe said:Teachers are charged with the safety of other people's kids.
I was going to quote something similar to this because it seems to me that the majority of teachers I have spoken with are against having guns in school at all. It will take a LOT of education to get them to see our points and such.apollosmith said:I think 'encouraging' teachers to carry could result in some backlash politically. I just don't think it's a battle worth fighting. But, teachers should absolutely be given the ability and opportunity to carry and the state should do all it can to make this possible.
WOW! Do they still have firedrills? When I was in school all the way up to high school. The teachers all made sure everyone was out of the building to the best of their knowledge. Are you telling me this does not happen anymore? Is this a Utah thing or all over the US?If the building were on fire or someone were shooting up the place, they have no obligation to get the kids out first.
Only Military, how about us Civilians that work for the DOD, there are more of us, lolStrategic Tactical said:We offer FREE classes to "Educators" also. We have even offered them to ALL SCHOOL FACULTY, such as janitors and anyone else that might be on a school campus during a shooting. We have had limited results with this. We also do FREE classes for Military personel.
I'm assuming the offer for those with Honorable Discharges only applies to the initial CC class... as opposed to other classes you might offer... ???Strategic Tactical said:For the military, its free to Active, Guard/Reserve or Honorably retired military individuals..... It owuld be nice if we could just do free classes for everyone, but then how would I pay my instructors and cover our costs????? LOL :lol:
They still do fire drills and teachers do make sure everyone is out. I'm just saying that teachers have no legal requirement to put the safety of their students above their own safety. It isn't in their job description somewhere that they must protect their students. They certainly CAN do it, but they are not required to.Shaolin said:When I was in school all the way up to high school. The teachers all made sure everyone was out of the building to the best of their knowledge. Are you telling me this does not happen anymore? Is this a Utah thing or all over the US?
Really? Last time I checked, state schools could not enact policies that contradict state law. Is there some policy against public school teacher's carrying with a permit? There certainly is no law. If there is a policy, somebody needs to contact BCI.Mjolnir said:The second thing is , there's no doubt she'd lose her job if it came out she had a gun.
As I have no kids, I didn't know what the protocol was anymore. Glad to hear it's still the same as when I was a kid. Just did not know that it was not legally required of them. I was always under the assumption that it was. Thanks for the explaination.apollosmith said:They still do fire drills and teachers do make sure everyone is out. I'm just saying that teachers have no legal requirement to put the safety of their students above their own safety. It isn't in their job description somewhere that they must protect their students. They certainly CAN do it, but they are not required to.Shaolin said:When I was in school all the way up to high school. The teachers all made sure everyone was out of the building to the best of their knowledge. Are you telling me this does not happen anymore? Is this a Utah thing or all over the US?