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So I bought a Smartcarry a little while ago, about the same time I bought the Crossbreed Supertuck IWB. I must say that I prefer the Crossbreed, but the Smartcarry is pretty decent. Pretty comfy. I carry a S&W .357 Mag Airlite in it. The only problem is, and I wish someone had warned me, is that it is a major pain in the hiney to use the restroom with one of these suckers on. :nilly: Does anybody use the bathroom when wearing one of these, or do they realize it's lame to deal with and just hold it? :shock: I like it other than that. Some of my clothes work quite a bit better with the Smartcarry. I guess I'll just have to either prepare not to use the restroom, or somehow be :super: ..........
 

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I don't know what other people do, but on the FAQ page on the SmartCarry website, there is a description of how the owner of SmartCarry does his business:
Q: I'm a man and I have to use a urinal to relieve myself. Does the gun block my access to the fly in my underwear?

A: It can, but the solution is very simple - just take your index finger and thumb and move the barrel/slide over to your left (right, if you're left handed) and access the fly in your shorts with your other fingers. Once your fingers enter the fly in your shorts, release the firearm and the side of your hand will keep it out of the way. Or, you can grasp the barrel/slide with your weak hand, through your lower outer garment, and move and hold it to your left/right while opening your fly with your other hand. Simply remove your private parts and relieve yourself like you do when not carrying a firearm. You can also do this with one hand, as some men like to hold onto the urinal plumbing for some reason unknown to me! The instructions suggest you practice this a few times in the privacy of your bathroom at home, using an unloaded firearm. Once you get the hang of it, you'll be able to do this just as easily as you do when not carrying. It only takes about four to six "practice" runs to get it down to perfection!

If you have to sit down to relieve yourself, it's very simple. When you lower/lift your outer garment, simply slide SmartCarry® up several inches and let it remain around your lower chest until you're finished. Then slide it back down, lift or lower your outer garment and go about your business. In other words, you'll never have to remove either SmartCarry® or your firearm until you return home or need the firearm for self protection!
I tend to find the method in that first paragraph a bit awkward, so when I'm carrying in my SmartCarry, I will go into a stall and open things up a bit more for greater ease of use.
 

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I follow the suggestions in the FAQ. Works great.
 

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mqondo said:
So I bought a Smartcarry a little while ago, about the same time I bought the Crossbreed Supertuck IWB. I must say that I prefer the Crossbreed, but the Smartcarry is pretty decent. Pretty comfy. I carry a S&W .357 Mag Airlite in it. The only problem is, and I wish someone had warned me, is that it is a major pain in the hiney to use the restroom with one of these suckers on. :nilly: Does anybody use the bathroom when wearing one of these, or do they realize it's lame to deal with and just hold it? :shock: I like it other than that. Some of my clothes work quite a bit better with the Smartcarry. I guess I'll just have to either prepare not to use the restroom, or somehow be :super: ..........
For me the answer is yes and no. I made my own version of smart carry and when I use the bathroom I just grab the gun and all and pull it up and out of my pants so that it is not in the way. The pancake holster, I made it out of, has a thumb break and so by leaving that snapped, it works for me. I don't know for sure but I don't think the real smart carry has one, which would make it a problem.

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Here is a picture of mine.
 

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I have been interested in trying the smart carry system but don't want to shell out the money and end up not liking it.

As far a doing my business, when I am carrying I use the stalls. I feel quite vulnerable while using the urinal especially when I am open carrying.
 

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I'll skip all the obvious jokes about handling your weapon at a urinal and go straight to imparting wisdom from all my cumulative years of experience --
don't holster the firearm if the barrel is still hot. :flamethrower:
 

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Mazellan said:
........ I feel quite vulnerable while using the urinal especially when I am open carrying.
Wait and use a stall. :D

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UtahCFP said:
I'll skip all the obvious jokes about handling your weapon at a urinal and go straight to imparting wisdom from all my cumulative years of experience --
don't holster the firearm if the barrel is still hot. :flamethrower:
:shock: :shock: :shocked: :nilly: :nilly: :fever: :bang2:
 

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xmirage2kx said:
UtahCFP said:
I'll skip all the obvious jokes about handling your weapon at a urinal and go straight to imparting wisdom from all my cumulative years of experience --
don't holster the firearm if the barrel is still hot. :flamethrower:
:shock: :shock: :shocked: :nilly: :nilly: :fever: :bang2:
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So, I've never actually tried a Smartcarry system, but as I look at it I have one concern. It seems that it would be rather uncomfortable for sitting. I have bits that I'd prefer not to have a gun jammed against. Is that a problem? Is there something in the mechanism that makes sitting comfortable?
 

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treesloth said:
So, I've never actually tried a Smartcarry system, but as I look at it I have one concern. It seems that it would be rather uncomfortable for sitting. I have bits that I'd prefer not to have a gun jammed against. Is that a problem? Is there something in the mechanism that makes sitting comfortable?
The gun doesn't really jam against your bits. It swings forward and kind of rests on your lap when you sit down. The only issue I've found is that if I'm wearing pants that are too tight, there may not be enough room for the gun. When that happens, the muzzle jams against the crotch of the pants, which looks really funny, and the grip jams into your gut, which is uncomfortable.

Wear pants with enough room in the crotch and there's no problem at all. It's actually quite comfortable. Much better than an IWB holster and in many cases even more comfortable than an OWB holster.
 

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I think that is the best FAQ I have ever seen :) it takes quite a sense of humor or Naivety to post something like that. My vote is for the humor :)
 

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Tarzan1888 said:
Mazellan said:
........ I feel quite vulnerable while using the urinal especially when I am open carrying.
Wait and use a stall. :D

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That's what he said:
Mazellan said:
I have been interested in trying the smart carry system but don't want to shell out the money and end up not liking it.

As far a doing my business, when I am carrying I use the stalls. I feel quite vulnerable while using the urinal especially when I am open carrying.
I have carried with SmartCarry since June of 2007. Although I have been blessed below the waist, I wear loose (not baggy, just loose) clothing and tightness isn't an issue. The holster is in front of your "plumbing" so it doesn't crowd that area and the gun points towards your feet, not your crotch. It is kind of like wearing a cup. It also protects you like a cup. It is similiar to wearing a cup in that you have to be careful where your "equipment" is in relation to the holster (especially when it's hot) to avoid getting pinched. It does make you sweat a little more down there, which has been an issue when I am wearing a suit inside or when it is really hot outside so I'm glad that I have my Blackhawk SERPA now. I always use the stalls when carrying. When standing, I just grab the handle of the gun and slide the holster to my left (I'm left handed) and then use the fly in my boxers.
 

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guardianspirit said:
It is kind of like wearing a cup. It also protects you like a cup.
This is very true.

A couple months back my youngest son ran up to me to playfully punch me in the gut. He's done that for years but at age 7 he's getting big enough now that it hurts if I don't see him and tense my gut in time. Well, this time I didn't see him until almost too late and I tried to move out of the way. He tried to compensate for my movement and ended up punching me right in the crotch, hard. I had my XD in the SmartCarry so he ended up punching the gun. Between the holster and my pants there was enough padding that it didn't hurt him, only stung a little, but I have no doubt I'd have been on the floor if the gun wasn't there.

His only comment was that I was even tougher there than in my stomach. He was impressed. :lolbang:
 

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Two things I don't like.... for me, personally, it is a hard holster to draw from. My other complaint is I don't like holsters that point my loaded weapon at the back of someone's head when I sit (movie theater).
 

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Two things I don't like.... for me, personally, it is a hard holster to draw from. My other complaint is I don't like holsters that point my loaded weapon at the back of someone's head when I sit (movie theater).
I can draw from it just fine; just need to make sure my belt isn't too tight, then practice from time to time.

As for the other, I agree. The first time I wore mine we went to my grandma's house and my wife ended up sitting on the floor in front of my chair because there weren't enough chairs to go around and she wanted her shoulders rubbed. I was sitting there rubbing her shoulders when I realized that the muzzle of my gun was pointed straight at the back of her head. I know the trigger is covered and the gun can't go off, but it made me so uncomfortable that I went to the bathroom and unloaded the chamber. Then when I went back I offered my wife the chair and stood behind her.

I'm not sure how to address this issue. It still makes me uncomfortable from time to time.
 

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swillden said:
The only issue I've found is that if I'm wearing pants that are too tight, there may not be enough room for the gun. When that happens, the muzzle jams against the crotch of the pants, which looks really funny, and the grip jams into your gut, which is uncomfortable.

Wear pants with enough room in the crotch and there's no problem at all. It's actually quite comfortable. Much better than an IWB holster and in many cases even more comfortable than an OWB holster.
I frequently use my Thunderware holster that is very similar to the Smartcarry and swillden's comment is also my main complaint about the front carry design. My XD45C is much more comfortable thant the Kimber Compact CDP II because the beavertail of the 1911 tends to jab me in the gut. With light shorts or the REI zip off pants, the Thunderware works fairly well. Using the Thunderware with the jeans I bought 15 lbs ago is a little less comfortable when seated and it takes a little adjustment to get it just right.
 

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swillden said:
I know the trigger is covered and the gun can't go off, but it made me so uncomfortable that I went to the bathroom and unloaded the chamber.
Even gun experts agree that relying on a mechanical safety is bound to lead to accidents - mechanical man made things can fail.
 

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swillden said:
...The first time I wore mine we went to my grandma's house and my wife ended up sitting on the floor in front of my chair because there weren't enough chairs to go around and she wanted her shoulders rubbed. I was sitting there rubbing her shoulders when I realized that the muzzle of my gun was pointed straight at the back of her head. I know the trigger is covered and the gun can't go off, but it made me so uncomfortable that I went to the bathroom and unloaded the chamber. Then when I went back I offered my wife the chair and stood behind her.

I'm not sure how to address this issue. It still makes me uncomfortable from time to time.
I had to travel to Iraq a little while ago. I got rather used to looking down the muzzles of Beretta M9s, because many of them are openly carried in horizontal shoulder holsters. At first, I tensed up each time I could see down the barrel, but it got to be routine. That's probably not a good thing, but that was the way it was.

I never worry about the gun in the SmartCarry holster. It's not going to discharge in there with the trigger well-covered.
 
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You can get used to actual live weapons pointed at you. Current doctrine has you flagging your buddy from time to time. When I cleared buildings the second man in the stack would shoot over me and the dog. I never got up without the tap on my Kevlar and a look over my shoulder.

That said I carry in thunder wear, I dont know about the rest of you but I had to go to briefs to keep from the "equipment" getting pinched. I just use the stall. See also (and guy peed on himself) I was in a hurry and the guy next to me meat gased and got so scared he prematurely put the equipment away while leaving in haste. :lol3:
 
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