the very Gruff lady behind the glass said 60 DAYS and then got up and walked away.Shaolin said:Exactly 4 weeks for mine.
Rememer that during the "waiting" period you CAN Open Carry. :dancing:RobFindlay said:How long from "personal experience" do you reckon I have to wait to get my permit ?
-Rob
UTOC-45-44, when you say this, please don't forget to add the one very important restriction that people must know about. Without a CFP, one can legally open carry, but the gun must be legally unloaded.UTOC-45-44 said:Rememer that during the "waiting" period you CAN Open Carry. :dancing:RobFindlay said:How long from "personal experience" do you reckon I have to wait to get my permit ?
-Rob
TJ
Are you sure about this the law says 60 days it doesn't say week days.Mazellan said:it took me exactly 81 days encluding biz and non biz days. The quoted 60 days is working days and that would be about right for my permit.
The 60 days is found in Utah State Code section 53-5-704.marksman said:Are you sure about this the law says 60 days it doesn't say week days.
I don't fit the "type" to open carry. My style of dress, people would not get it...and I'd rather avoid trouble.GeneticsDave said:The 60 days is found in Utah State Code section 53-5-704.marksman said:Are you sure about this the law says 60 days it doesn't say week days.
The point of the 60 days allow the BCI to determine that the applicant is/is not of good character. If they don't find anything, they issue you a permit. But they still have up to 60 days to do that. It's 60 business days because they have to actually be at work and working to determine your character and process your application. If they're not at work, they're not processing, so you must exclude weekends and holidays.
Don't get all stressed about receiving your permit, you can still carry at home in the mean time and you can open carry (with at least two actions required to fire, and not in your car). Take this time to get used to your holster and carry methods. And, you can dry practice - invaluable.
Let us know when it arrives!
OK, having difficulty imagining that. Perhaps you could post a self pic? :lol3:RobFindlay said:Imagine a goth-punk-metal-cowboy look with a touch of rockabilly thrown in, thats me.
OK, I'm picturing a 4'5" Alice Cooper impersonator with mid-shoulder blade length 'just for men' black hair, painted nails, spiked leather/denim jacket, beat up old straw cowboy hat and too small 501s rolled up to show off his classic blue Keds... :lolbang:GeneticsDave said:OK, having difficulty imagining that. Perhaps you could post a self pic? :lol3:RobFindlay said:Imagine a goth-punk-metal-cowboy look with a touch of rockabilly thrown in, thats me.
I disagree the law makes no reference to business days. And there is no definition in the utah code law of the term "day". I think the default is the dictionary definition of the word day which is 24 hours. I found no reference in Utah court law for the definition of days but I did find the following yahoo answer that clarifies that legally a day is 24 hours in other jurisdictions. I further note that in other places in the Utah code where the the word days is used (ie the hunting residency requirement) it is referencing calendar days. Also note that other places in the Utah code when the intent is to reference business days the term "Business Day" is used and defined (as in 35A-7-102) It seems to me that the intent of the law was not to set aside a certain number of days that BCI had to do a background check but to limit the number of days that a applicant had to wait for the receipt of their license. This law doesn't provide processing time to the processor but limits waiting time for the applicant. And I am indeed waiting on weekends and holidays, and the number of days I am required to wait is no more than 60.GeneticsDave said:The 60 days is found in Utah State Code section 53-5-704.
The point of the 60 days allow the BCI to determine that the applicant is/is not of good character. If they don't find anything, they issue you a permit. But they still have up to 60 days to do that. It's 60 business days because they have to actually be at work and working to determine your character and process your application. If they're not at work, they're not processing, so you must exclude weekends and holidays.
