Unfortunate Shooting

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Contagious

Discussion Starter · Jan 6, 2008

Sad deal...

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=2442115

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This is very sad indeed.

The woman who died had a restraining order against her husband and she died this morning on her 30th birthday, in the parking lot of an LDS church.

My heart goes out to her loved ones who have suddenly lost her.

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blackpuma

· #3 · Jan 6, 2008

An unfortunately classic example of the need for self-defense.

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xmirage2kx

· #4 · Jan 7, 2008

Wow, this church is within sight distance from my house. That is very scary. Judging by the story I know these people, but I am not sure yet. I will let you guys know if I find out anything after work today.

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natehunts

· #5 · Jan 7, 2008

How sad. I pray for those children.

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Cinhil

· #6 · Jan 7, 2008

I just got off of the KSL news blog on this and there were over 212 responses. Some were intelligent, thought provoking and intellectual, others were your usual idiots.
I feel for these poor children and their grandparents who are left to deal with this tragedy.
There is no way to know positively if a ccw carrier who may have been on the scene could have even helped as we are restricted from carrying while attending. It is possible that had the church law not come about, the non-restriction we used to enjoy before '04 (I think) may have permitted anyone lawfully carrying to have been on site and possibly able to lend assistance.
That said, I am certainly glad the police were able to talk him into surrender within the hour and that no further deaths occurred.
It may be possible for the grandparents to sue the church for creating the gun free zone which culminated in the death of this women, the proceeds of course, going to the children.
This is truly tragic & I shall be praying for these innocent victims.

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Kevin Jensen

· #7 · Jan 7, 2008

Cinhil said:
It may be possible for the grandparents to sue the church for creating the gun free zone which culminated in the death of this women,

76-10-530 prohibits carrying a firearm into a house of worship. Having a firearm in the parking lot is not unlawful. The parking lot is not a "gun free zone".

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apollosmith

· #8 · Jan 7, 2008

SGT Jensen said:
76-10-530 prohibits carrying a firearm into a house of worship. Having a firearm in the parking lot is not unlawful. The parking lot is not a "gun free zone".

Yes, but I don't think it would be hard to convince a jury that the distance between the weapon in your car and the door of the church is an extension of the gun free zone and as such, the church could be liable for disarming individuals in that location. Certainly they don't expect churchgoers to set their guns down at the front door and pick them up on the way out.

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