[apollosmith]

As an employee of USU, I just received our updated Emergency Procedures handbook. It now has a section about Armed Individuals - "If you witness any armed individual on campus at any time, immediate contact the police." It went on to prescribe the typical drivel, such as "do whatever the gunman says" and "do not ever engage the gunman with force", "if there's a shooting, don't talk to the media", blah, blah.

I sent a nice e-mail to their office letting them know that from now on I was definitely going to call 911 every time I see an armed campus police officer. :roll: Seriously though, I did recommend that they re-word the guidelines to focus on dangerous and threatening individuals and not just those that are armed. And I pointed out that the thousands of gun owners and hundreds of USU students and staff that have CFPs don't appreciate being the target of their policy when it is as legal and non-threatening for us to be armed on campus as it is for campus police officers.

 

[Car Knocker]

Good job!

 

[Jeff Johnson]

That's disappointing. I had the impression that the USU administration was not as bad as that of the U of U.

Has there been a regime change at USU recently?

 

[whiptrackercracker]

I know that university housing is hugely against the idea of us students having guns legally. I had a small chat with the uppers a few years ago trying to determine if they were going to go ape if I legally carried. They basically said we prefer not, but that we cannot do anything. I have since then heard more recent comments to turn in anyone that has or says they have a gun straight to the police irregardless of the situation. Its sad really. Its why I carry deep cover when on campus, ect. I just don't want to go there. The only time I want university staff knowing I am carrying is if I am drawn and taking down a threat. The stupidity of the policy, is most likely in a REAL threat, the person will not see the shooters guns until its already too late, or they will be shot during the process of seeing them. Yeah, I'm sort of glad that I only have a year or so left of research here. There seems to be a short swift change in the winds around here. I bet its pressure in some sort from the UEA too. Not to mention uneducated myths and fears about guns. I'm putting a huge thank you out there to ALL the USU staff spoken or not spoken who help us students with these problems. I got saved last year when a university staff member discovered from a friend of mine that I carry. No longer a friend of mine. Anyways, this USU staff individual started the means to bring the circus of affairs and threats my direction. Thankfully, a fellow CCW member who is also a member of USU staff jumped in their way and saved my bacon!!!

 

[Mazellan]

A couple of months before I got my permit, I inquired with the UVU chief of police (as I found out later he was "acting" chief) on the rule that students and faculty were forbidden to bring dangerous weapons on campus with out specific written permission from the chief of police. The "acting" chief gave me a song and dance around the issue. I was quoting the new law that made any state entity unable to make rules or restrict firearms. I didn't get anywhere with him he just stood by the law.

I then shot off an email to the office of the AG. A few weeks I got a reply from the AG office stating that it was legal for me to carry on campus with a permit. The informed me that they would be contacting the president of UVU to correct this matter.

Since I had that instruction from the AG office, I really don't care if someone knows I am carrying. I have on one occasion open carried and will again on April 15th for another presentation on open carry. And if they want a law suit let them try and arrest me! I'll get free tuition for my children and family!!

JMO