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Growing numbers seeking permits for concealed handguns
Statewide, applications jumped about 61 percent last year from 2006, according to figures compiled by the Supreme Court of Virginia. As of Thursday, a Virginia State Police database contained 152,267 active concealed-carry permits.

here is the link http://hamptonroads.com/node/460980

But if you don't want to read the whole thing.. this is the final statement ..

Virginia Citizens Defense League President Philip Van Cleave said highly publicized shootings such as the one at Virginia Tech remind people that the government can't always protect them.

"The police can't be everywhere at once," he said. "If they can't be there, you've got a choice - either die or protect yourself. More and more people are looking at it that way."
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gr8grandma said:
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"The police can't be everywhere at once," he said. "If they can't be there, you've got a choice - either die or protect yourself. More and more people are looking at it that way."
And with very good reason. I have a lot of respect for Philip Van Cleave. Several years ago, I signed up for the newsletter from Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL). They are very effective at the state level and Phillip is relentless in defending RKBA. :thumbup: :flag:
gr8grandma said:
"The police can't be everywhere at once," he said. "If they can't be there, you've got a choice - either die or protect yourself. More and more people are looking at it that way."
Good for them. :D
Didn't something similar happen here in Utah after Trolley Square as well? I don't have the figures so if someone does, please share. But I remember reading or seeing something how Utah's Concealed Weapons Permit requests sky-rocketed too. It's sad that it takes situations like these to get people to realize that carrying is for the better.
Permits rose steadily though 2007, with about 2000 additional permits per quarter. See http://www.bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFStat.html

83,592 Total Valid Permits as of March 31,2007
4,017 Permits Issued 1st Quarter
1,793 Permits Renewed 1st Quarter

89,637 Total Valid Permits as of June 30,2007
6,359 Permits Issued 2nd Quarter
1,386 Permits Renewed 2nd Quarter

97,657 Total Valid Permits as of September 30,2007
8,022 Permits Issued 3rd Quarter
1,006 Permits Renewed 3rd Quarter

108,100 Total Valid Permits as of December 31,2007
10,736 Permits Issued 4th Quarter
1,224 Permits Renewed 4th Quarter
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Several years ago, I looked at the statistics at BCI and computed the percentage of Utah adults who have CFPs. I don't remember now how I determined how many of the then-valid CFPs were held by non-residents. Is that easy to find in the statistics?

I seem to remember that I computed that 3% of adult Utah residents had CFPs at that time.

EDIT: I just examined the 2004 1st Quarter report. It does give such statistics, but the 2007 4th Quarter report does not. :(
The reports give less information than they used to.
Utah 2007 population was estimated at 2,645,330 (http://www.census.gov/popest/states/NST-ann-est.html) and the total number of valid permits at the end of 2007 was 108,100.

When BCI was making the pitch to change the funding mechanism due to the number of applications (remember the 100 day waits last year?), I think they were saying about half the applications were from out of state. If we grossly oversimply and say half the permits are out of state, then the percentage of Utah residents having a permit would be (54050) / (2645330) = 0.0204 or 2.04%.

Next we lop off the under 21 crowd to come up with only those who are old enough for a permit. About 32.2% of the population is under 18 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah) so let's call it 35% that are 21 or older (this is conservative). Then, your equation would be (54040) / (1719464) = 3.14%.

Seems like you are in the ballpark.
UtahCFP said:
Then, your equation would be (54040) / (1719464) = 3.14%.
Easy as π.
Wow! Pi shows up in the unlikeliest places...
Jeff Johnson said:
Wow! Pi shows up in the unlikeliest places...
Yeah, I thought about that too. :D

I remember a cheer from MIT --

arc secant cotan sine
three point one four one five nine
go team!
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