What do you think of this.

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Paul

Discussion Starter · Apr 27, 2008

So I was visiting with my mayor the other day and we were just chitchatting. I told him I had had some problems with the neighbor kids at my business breaking into some of my employees cars during working hours and stealing cigarettes and loose change. He asked me if I heard about the commotion in town a few days earlier. I told him no. He said that the cops had surrounded a house with guns out and were kind of making a scene. He said the cops had been called to a domestic disturbance incident and because the guy was a "REGISTERED GUN OWNER" (the mayors EXACT words) the cops had taken out their shotguns and AR's and there were like 15 cops at this house while they tried to figure things out. I commented to him that wasn't everybody in our town a registered gun owner and kind of laughed about that. After we stopped talking though, I couldn't stop thinking that he had specifically said that because the police knew the individual in this home was a registered gun owner that they had taken extra precautions and called in more police than normal and had real guns out. So what do you think about this? How would the police be identifying a resident of a community this way? I thought the government didn't have lists of "registered gun owners." What do you guys think about this.

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Kevin Jensen

· #2 · Apr 27, 2008

Maybe this individual had an FFL, or a Class 3.

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Jeff Johnson

· #3 · Apr 27, 2008

Unless he's an FFL dealer or has NFA weapons, there's no such thing as a "registered gun owner". What does that even mean?

This confuses me ... and the story is a mite disturbing.

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Ruger Collector

· #4 · Apr 27, 2008

Police have computer records at their MDT fingertips, these are not public or criminal records which may be challenged or expunged (as far as I know). When they are sent on calls to addresses with histories, officers are immediately informed of known hazards such as possible drug or alcohol use, mental health problems, or firearm ownership.

Since I have a bi-polar family member I've had to call emergency responders more than a few times over the years to help with manic '10-96' episodes (I have the dispatch numbers memorized so I don't have to waste time with the 911 middle-man). They know there are guns in my house without asking every time, and yes, whenever I call them the nice deputies always show up quickly and in large numbers...

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xmirage2kx

· #5 · Apr 27, 2008

Ruger Collector said:
Police have computer records at their MDT fingertips, these are not public or criminal records which may be challenged or expunged (as far as I know). When they are sent on calls to addresses with histories, officers are immediately informed of known hazards such as possible drug or alcohol use, mental health problems, or firearm ownership.

Since I have a bi-polar family member I've had to call emergency responders more than a few times over the years to help with manic '10-96' episodes (I have the dispatch numbers memorized so I don't have to waste time with the 911 middle-man). They know there are guns in my house without asking every time, and yes, whenever I call them the nice deputies always show up quickly and in large numbers...

I am sure it has more to do with the persons history than anything.

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Ruger Collector

· #6 · Apr 27, 2008

xmirage2kx said:
I am sure it has more to do with the persons history than anything.

Possibly, or maybe that is how they respond to all mental subject calls. But that doesn't change the fact that they keep permanent records of addresses and note them if they believe there are firearms inside.

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Stenny4

· #7 · Apr 27, 2008

In the case of any violent crime, psychiatric problem, etc., the dispatchers will ask if the patient/suspect has a weapon or access to a weapon. A lot of the times things can get exaggerated between the call taker and the caller. You will usually only get two, maybe three cops for psychiatric problems, unless the circumstances warrant more.

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Car Knocker

· #8 · Apr 27, 2008

I imagine someone with a CFP would qualify as a "registered gun owner". If the police had a name for the person involved, wouldn't possession of a CFP pop up on the screen thus, perhaps, resulting in the dispatch of a greater than usual number of officers?

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Stenny4

· #9 · Apr 27, 2008

Car Knocker said:
If the police had a name for the person involved, wouldn't possession of a CFP pop up on the screen thus, perhaps, resulting in the dispatch of a greater than usual number of officers?

Only if that particular residence/address has a history. And it wouldn't tell them they have a CFP, but there were previous instances with guns/other weapons.

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Paul

Discussion Starter · #10 · Apr 28, 2008

I believe in this instance there had been some history. It still bugs me that the mayor who really had no involvement in the incident would have been told (by the police I presume) that the individual was a "registered gun owner" and the police took extra precautions because of this. I guess I am not really bugged by the extra precautions, I am simply curious exactly how the "registered gun owner" information came about.

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