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Next Wednesday, March 25, the California Assembly Public Safety Committee will consider legislation that would require gun owners to obtain a “permit-to-purchase” before buying handgun ammunition.

Introduced by California State Assembly Member Kevin De Leon (D-45), Assembly Bill 2062 puts ammunition sales in the crosshairs. AB2062 would require that law-abiding gun owners obtain a permit to buy handgun ammunition and would impose severe restrictions on the private transfers of handgun ammunition. Applicants for a “permit-to-purchase” would be required to submit to a background check, pay a $35 fee, and wait as long as 30 days to receive the permit.

Under AB2062, it would be unlawful to privately transfer more than 50 rounds of ammunition per month, even between family and friends, unless you are registered as a “handgun ammunition vendor” in the Department of Justice’s database. Ammunition retailers would have to be licensed and store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. The bill would also require vendors to keep a record of the transaction including the ammunition buyer’s name, driver’s license, the quantity, caliber and type of ammunition purchased, and right thumbprint, which would be submitted to the Department of Justice or the number of his handgun ammunition purchase permit.

Vendors would be required to contact the purchase permit database, to verify the validity of a permit before completing a sale. All ammunition sales in the State of California would be subject to a $3 per transaction tax. Lastly, mail order ammunition sales would be prohibited. Any violator of AB2062 would be subject to civil fines.

Please contact the members of the Assembly Public Safety Committee and your State Assembly Member TODAY and respectfully urge them to oppose this onerous attack on our Second Amendment freedoms. Contact information for the committee members can be found below. Please click here to find your State Assembly Member.

State Assembly Member Jose Solorio (D-69), Chair
(916) 319-2069
[email protected]

State Assembly Member Greg Aghazarian, (R-26), Vice Chair
(916) 319-2026
[email protected]

State Assembly Member Joel Anderson (R-77)
(916) 319-2077
[email protected]

State Assembly Member Hector De La Torre (D-50)
(916) 319-2050
[email protected]

State Assembly Member Fiona Ma (D-12)
(916) 319-2012
[email protected]

State Assembly Member Anthony J. Portantino (D-44)
(916) 319-2044
[email protected]
 

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This stuff has been tried in California for the last 5 years and has never passed. I think the first couple times it never made it past the finance committee because of all the costs incurred would be more than the monies collected. The most recent time these failed was because there was no viable way to track every bullet sold. Remember, these laws would not exclude law enforcement so departments would have to meet these guidelines too. Basically ammo makers went to the state law enforcement agencies and told them they would stop selling ammo in California if these laws came into effect because it would make the ammo so expensive.
 

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Ammo control is a lot easier than gun control. The California Microstamping law was passed. Although misguided, it was signed into law. These things don't fail as easily as you might think.
 

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The it would appear my information is a bit old as I thought the microstamping thing was defeated.
 

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CA Gun Microstamp Bill Signed Into Law

SAN FRANCISCO (KCBS) -- California will soon be the first state requiring semiautomatic handguns to have technology to microstamp each bullet fired from the weapon.

Governor Schwarzenegger signed the bill into law this weekend, raising the ire of gun rights advocates, who say the technology is unreliable.

"Thus far, the consensus, whether it's done independently, or the research that was funded by the state of California, has shown it to be useless," said Guy Smith of the Coalition to Preserve our Rights. He added that microstamps can easily be filed away by criminals.

Backers of the bill argue the law will give police a useful tool. "If all that is left are gun casings, especially in things like drive-by shootings, there still is a very effective way to trace who owns that gun," said Kay Holmen, president of the California Chapters of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

The microstamp would identify a gun's make, model and serial number on a bullet cartridge. The law takes effect in 2010.

Source: http://www.kcbs.com/pages/1091171.php?
 

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2 Things

First of all keeping track of who bought bullets is stupid because bullets don't have registration numbers so even if a bullet is used in the commission of a crime there would be no way to track that bullet back to the person that bought it. Just back to the 1 million people that bought ones just like it. Microstamping is also really stupid because all a criminal has to do is 1 use an unregistered gun (which they probably do anyway) and then it can't be traced to them. 2 pickup and destroy the spent shell after the gun is fired and then there is no serial number left to trace. 3. sand the microstamping impression off the firing pin.

Second even though microstamping passed it doesn't go into effect until 2010 and is contingent on a practicality review by the AG. If the gun companies just don't spend the money to develop the technology to do this and then in 2010 say we don't have the technology to do this and the law is effectively voided.

When will people get it. Why inconvenience and violate the rights of 36,000,000 productive citizens to effect legislation that may help LE catch at best a few stupid bad guys that probably would have been caught anyway.
 

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I'm gonna open ammo shops in Reno, Carson City and Las Vegas! I'll make a killing (no pun intended) :ROFL:
 

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I'm gonna open ammo shops in Reno, Carson City and Las Vegas! I'll make a killing (no oun intended) :ROFL:
If it passes, I don't think that is a bad idea . . . just open a ammo shop in the casinos at all the border crossings!
 

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Better yet, make a deal with the Indian nations in California. Maybe they will let me have ammo shops on their territory if I contribute 10% of profits to tribal uses.
 

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No wonder I moved to Utah 14 years ago, from California. Still trying to get my son and daughter to leave the state of fruits and nuts and move here.
 
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